Blakes7 August 2001

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Re: [B7L] Light bulbs
by Tony Nolan 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

How many light bulbs does it take to change AVON? None: He is the brighest thing on two legs. How many light bulbs does to take to change an AVON ? Just 1: but why wyoud you want to change perfection. How many light bulbs does it take to change AVON? If it will save Vila's life, he will instead. How many light bulbs does it take to change AVON? "What!! I only use Plasma please" Avon How many light bulbs does it take to change AVON, As many as you like, as long as there all turned off, you cant steal credits in the dark!! How many light bulbs does it take to change VILA, Just 1, but thats only when it pop's Ok, I know, enough is enough - giggle tony At 08:20 20/08/2001 +1000, Andrew Williams wrote: > >Betty wrote: >>Aw! But now I wanna know... How many light globes *does* it take to >>change an Avon? > >How many space rats does it take to change a light bulb? > >Two - one to change the light bulb; the other to kick the chair out from >under him, gook! >

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Holidays
by jacquispeel＠netscape.net 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

I presume the lyst is quiet because 'everybody is on holiday' What 'general public holidays' would there be in the Federation - apart from 'New Year's Day' and 'Founding of the Federation Day'. Jacqui __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

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Light bulbs
by Andrew Williams 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

Betty wrote: >Aw! But now I wanna know... How many light globes *does* it take to >change an Avon? How many space rats does it take to change a light bulb? Two - one to change the light bulb; the other to kick the chair out from under him, gook!

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How Green was my Valley
by Judith Proctor 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

Much to my relief (having found the choices direct web site to be a bit of a pain) I have found that you can buy How Green Was My Valley from Blackstar. I like Blackstar. They're friendly, reliable, their web site works and they always tell you the postage cost up front instead of making you wait until you've spent ten minutes struggling through the order process to find out that it all costs several pounds more than you expected. (my pet hate about Amazon) By way of celebration, we've stuck a link to the relevent page on Blackstar on the top page of http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 So, if you want to get the video (and it's worth it for Sian Phillips as well as Gareth - she gives a wonderful performance) then I'd recommend Blackstar. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org ) Redemption '03 21-23 Feb 2003 http://www.smof.com/redemption/

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Re: Fan artist dies
by JEB31538＠cs.com 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

Thanks, Kathryn, for the news. It's always sad when someone in fandom dies. Warren will be remembered for his art. I treasure my Warren Oddsson Blake's 7 t-shirt and the print of it as well. He did a wonderful job. For those who haven't seen the B7 B&W pen and ink, there's a large Blake face in the foreground and a smaller Avon face in the background on the left. There's a large Liberator on the right, coming out of Blake's curls. Every Escapade con in February I wear my Oddsson B7 shirt one of the days. I also bought his Star Trek (TOS) print. In the mid-90's it was very easy to buy his work on tees as well as prints. And prices were very reasonable. I have no clue now how one would go about buying his art currently. I did visit the memorial page and the B7 print is not up and the ST:TOS print I have is not one of the ones that is shown. If you like art, you might give the Oddsson site a visit. http://home.istar.ca/~swpc/warren Joyce

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Re: [B7L] Re: Location, Location, Location
by Ellynne G. 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 20:22:58 +0200 "Marian de Haan" <maya(a)multiweb.nl> writes: > > Only if illigitimacy causes a social stigma or disadvantage in the > Federation. We have no canonical evidence for or against that, but > considering the tolerant attitude to unmarried couples, I would > assume that > illigitimicy doesn't carry the stigma it did until recently in our > Western > societies. JMHO, but I think it was a mixed bag. The Federation does seem to have some privileges that are effected by birth (education, connections, status, possibly citizenship). My guess would be that a child's automatic claim to these would be effected by the status of the parents' relationship but not necessarily in an inalterable way. While the Federation shows a high tolerance of unmarried couples, this may or may not extend to children. I'm thinking of a fantasy series I was reading where the fact that this one race has complete or near complete control over whether a child is conceived has led to a heavy stigma against illegitimate or mixed race children although unmarried couples or mixed race romances are taken for granted. So, the Federation with its domes and high level of government interference seems like the kind of place that would have a tradition of legal meddling in birth. It seems likely that, if there was a time when people on Earth were confined to a few domed cities because of radiation and so on, strict limits on population growth would have been in effect and that some of that mind set survives. So, I would guess that a child of a marriage between parents of equal citizen ranks has the full rights and privileges associated with that rank until they're tested on their own. They also probably have open connections to the influence of both sides of the family. After that, it probably gets complicated. That is, rights and privileges might not be automatic but they might be controlled by various customs and traditions that had near legal force. The child of an unmarried couple might or might not have privileges from the father's side. It might be controlled by whether the father acknowledges the child as his or various things might be considered under his discretion rather than automatic. Depending on other factors, the mother's extended family might have similar control. So, if Servalan had a child, I doubt anyone would blink an eye. If Anna Grant had Avon's child while, apparently (everything she said being open to debate), married to another man, matters could be complicated (and further complicated by all the side plot elements). Other questions: Would the Federation legalize unions between different grades? Would the gap between grades make a difference (Alpha-Beta legal, Alpha-Delta not)? What elements might have been open to paternal discretion? But, skipping all that, Avon's always struck me as someone who's had to fight for his position in society, that he had to prove himself. If his status was open to question or could be altered at the whim of relatives who didn't seem to fond of him in the first place, I could see where it came from. Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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FWD: Fan Artist Dies
by Kathryn Andersen 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

No-one seems to have forwarded this yet, so I am taking it upon myself to do so. ----- Forwarded message from lrhbalzer(a)yahoo.com ----- To: sentinelangst(a)yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <9lfu9h+3lma(a)eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster From: lrhbalzer(a)yahoo.com Delivered-To: mailing list sentinelangst(a)yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 07:55:29 -0000 Reply-To: sentinelangst(a)yahoogroups.com Subject: [SA] Fan Artist Dies Hi, I just got some bad news, that my dear friend and former roommate, Warren Oddsson, died last night of a heart attack. He was 43. If any of you have any of my fanzines, Warren was responsible for the awesome art you see there on the cover and throughout the fanzines. On my website at: http://victorian.fortunecity.com/literary/196/ there is a page called "Fan Art". I have a few of Warren's pictures up, and now I think I'll add a lot in the next few weeks. For years his art was shown at MediaWest in the artshow (the years I was good and remembered to send it on time) or shown at other fan convention artshows. Many fans have t-shirts of Sentinel, Highlander, Trek, Starsky and Hutch, and the other myriad of fandoms he was in. For those of you who visited my former house during a visit to Vancouver, you would have met Warren, a very tall -- 6 foot, 5 inch -- blond Viking who besides doing fan art, also designed the logo for a Canadian astronaunt on a NASA space flight, and was flown to Florida for the lift off, and then Houston Control for the event. I'm still a little in shock. I spent the evening on the phone calling his friends and letting them know. Warren lived with my husband and I for two years, then a few years later, lived with Cathy, Shane, and I for four years. We went to high school together, so for thirty years he's been a part of my life. Please pass this email on to any other fan groups. Warren was especially known in Classic Trek, Sentinel, Dr Who, and Man from UNCLE, but he also did art for Starsky & Hutch (3 fanzines covers), Professionals (several covers), Highlander (many covers), also covers for fanzines for Red Dwarf, James Bond, I Spy, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Kung Fu:TLC, Robin of Sherwood, Blake's 7, Babylon Five, Forever Knight, Xena, Hercules, Star Trek Voyager, Prisoner, Star Wars, Wild Wild West... and others I've forgotten off the top of my head. A few days ago, I just sent off a package to Mysti Frank, so she could sell his prints on her website and at conventions, as I get requests for the prints still. His death yesterday was a blow to us all here. Now, I'll be donating his profits to the Canadian Epilepsy Foundation. Please say a prayer for his parents, his brother and sister and their families, as well as his many friends in the fan community. Thanks. Lois <lrhbalzer(a)yahoo.com> ----- End forwarded message ----- -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen <kat(a)katspace.com> / \ | <http://www.katspace.com> \_.--.*/ | v | #include "standard/disclaimer.h" ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe

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Re: small talk on the ship
by Helen Krummenacker 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

> But what on *earth* might Cally and Jenna, or Cally and Tarrant, or Gan and > Avon, or Dayna and Vila, find to talk about on the off-hours? Any > suggestions? > Blake and Vila: sports Cally and Jenna: travel. Jenna had to get around a bit as a smuggler, and Cally must have done some travel prior to the Liberator. So they talk about best shipboard rations, what the weather was like on such-and-such when they were there. Maybe talk politics, too, because Jenna is interested if not convinced by idealism. Cally and Tarrant: this one is tough. They might like some of the same games (after all, we saw Space Monopoly) and talk about strategy or something. She might try getting him to talk about himself-- since she can't read minds, she might feel like getting people to talk is a bit of a substitute, especially, because she objects to Tarrant's behavior on some occaissions, she might be more curious than usual as to why. Gan and Avon: If you go with Avon as a chef, as some do, they might have chats in the kitchen. Or they might discuss music. Gan seemed to have a sort of music-video walkman in one episode and INTx's tend to have a strong affinity for music. Dayna and Vila: You know, they are the only two I could picture watching really bad movies together, throwing popcorn at the set and even having a belching contest. She's young enough to be silly if she lets go and he likes to act juvenile.

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Re: [B7L] In Space, No One Can Discuss The Weather ...
by Ellynne G. 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 10:22:41 +0000 "Sally Manton" <smanton(a)hotmail.com> writes: > One other point I thought of when answering Natasa's essay, was > something > that I have noticed both in my own writing (what little there is) > and others > ... how very *very* difficult it is to imagine most of these people > carrying > on a simple, non-rebellion-or-survival-or-some-such-plotty-thing > conversation. I mean, just think about the nine of them in the > various > groups that got flung together ... what the *hell* did they all find > to talk > about with each other when we and Zen-cam weren't there to > watch?!?!? So, Dayna, do you have any hobbies? I beg your pardon? I see. Er, didn't they . . . smell after a while? And you tanned them yourself. How . . . nice. You did _what_ with them? Yes, I certainly see what you mean. That would be a sight to wake up to each morning. No, I like my room just the way it is. Thanks. I'd love to stay and chat, but I just remembered. I . . . er . . . uhm . . . It's my turn to get the old movie player from Vila, and, uh . . . . Oh, your favorite movie is about a taxidermist? Why am I not surprised - I mean, that's nice. No, I don't think I'll watch Psycho. Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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Re: In Space, No One Can Discuss The Weather
by Betty Ragan 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

Tony Nolan wrote: > After suggesting the jokes, i already came up with a few > > like > > How many light globes does it take to change an Avon ? > > but then i decided i better not Aw! But now I wanna know... How many light globes *does* it take to change an Avon? All the answers I can come up with are really lame. Like: "A whole *bunch*, 'cause he's a stubborn SOB" or "There... are... *four*... lights!" (quick, name that crossover!) or "None, 'cause the Federation used them all trying to change Blake." -- Betty Ragan ** bragan(a)nrao.edu ** http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~bragan Not speaking for my employers, officially or otherwise. "Seeing a rotten picture for the special effects is like eating a tough steak for the smothered onions..." -- Isaac Asimov

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