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Re: [B7L] Frame capture vote results
by Natasa Tucev 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

Stephen wrote: > --- Natasa wrote: > >> Another naive detail in the series, IMO, is that the >> rebellion's leaders all get on so >> well. From the very beginning, the whole >> anti-Federation movement is so >> harmonious: > >The exception being the crew of the Liberator of >course ! Yes, it has often occured to me that Blake's idealism wouldn't stand out so much if he weren't surrounded by such 'untypical' rebels. In the galaxy which must be full of discontent with the Federation government and millions of angry, deprived citizens who would be more than willing to help Blake in his fight, he somehow ends up with a small group of eccentrics who don't give a monkey's about changing the world. >Blake never has to >worry about the morality of his allies torturing >Federation prisoners or blowing up civilians. Whereas this happens quite often in fanfic. Fanfic writers seem to have a taste for positing moral dilemmas and depicting the rebellion in shades of gray. >In fact >he has to do a deal with an organised crime syndicate >to encounter morally dubious individuals. It seems we primarily have to thank Boucher for introducing such individuals - and also for making Blake himself morally dubious. Blake's 'transformation' designed by Boucher starts with 'Shadow'. Someone on the Lyst suggested the name of the episode, apart from the drug, also alludes to the Terra Nostra being the Federation's 'shadow'. I think it's also because Boucher has decided to turn Blake into a 'dusky' hero, past his zenith of perfection and moral purity, whose shadow starts becoming visible. The next step in the transformation is Star One, with those weird scenes in which Blake's so successful in pretending he's Travis. Blake wants to destroy Star One. Travis wants to enable the Andromedans to do the same. As Avon would say, there must be a subtle difference which escapes me at the moment. And then there's 'Blake', where Our Hero appears as an unshaven one-eyed bounty hunter who shoots people in the back. I wonder what would have become of Blake in Boucher's interpretation had the series continued. I try hard to incorporate the changes he introduced into the character, but sometimes I give up. In my hours of darkness I've concluded that Boucher is really a Federation's secret agent assigned to destroy Blake's reputation. N.

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Im New
by Leia Fee 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

Welcome Tony. > We are big fans over here at my uni, we even have 3 library servers names after the >blakes 7 computers, lol. I named the computers on one of the networks at work after B7 characters too. We keep getting new ones though and I'm begining to run out of names!<grin> Leia

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Headhunter & Assassin (was: (no subject))
by Marian de Haan 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

Jacqui wrote: > Does nobody have anything to say then? > > Where have all the controversies gone (g)? It's summer holiday here and everyone has gone abroad to escape the bad weather (which then promptly changed for the better). Summer always is a quiet time, isn't it? February seems to be the time for fireworks :-) But here are some musings: In Headhunter, why does Avon say that the robot's head has to be put in place by Vila or him? As weapon designer Dayna must be a good enough technician for the job - and far more likely to volunteer. :-) I think Avon has decided all along to do it himself, and is merely teasing Vila. In Assassin, why are the two slavers who are holding Avon not surprised when he addresses "Sleer" as Servalan? And does this mean that she later kills them to keep their mouths shut? Or even kills all the slavers? And if the latter is the case, would she get a medal for it, or would the Federation elite be peeved about having lost its illegal slave market? Marian

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Re: namesakes
by Helen Krummenacker 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

> > isn't naming any mechanical device after Orac just *asking* for > trouble? (OTOH, name it after Gambit and it could self-destruct on you ...) > Does anyone else here name their cars? My husband and I named our first one "Liberator"-- for the ship.

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Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy
by jacquispeel＠netscape.net 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

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Re: [B7L] PGP Thought
by Sally Manton 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

Ellynne wrote: <Since a _huge_ number of physical trauma victims suffer partial amnesia, often unable to remember events for hours, days, even weeks or months leading up to the accident, what if Blake survived and had no memory of Avon shooting him?> <grin> and when you recite the bald facts (many thanks, Ellynne *and* Anna), it *does* come across as the most unlikely and ridiculous idea - give full credit to Our Heroes, they did always manage the impossible :-( _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [B7L] Hostage
by Sally Manton 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

Andrew wrote: <First Cally tells them that the atmosphere is thin so they have to take it easy. So the first thing Blake does when he lands is run up a track.> Well Cally *should* have known better. Look at the way the *last* time she tried to advise him healthwise (Horizon) - she said they needed rest, so he promptly starts following the nearest Federation ship into trouble :-) <Then when Avon arrives, he sprints up the same track!> <grin> Avon wasn't listening to her, too busy worrying about what he'd gotten Blake into ... and Leia: <Well they do both go and get themselves captured pretty quickly afterwards ...maybe we can put it down to being tired and not paying proper attention...> That's their excuse and they're sticking to it? What's Vila's? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: Re: [B7L] Oddments (was no subject)
by Sally Manton 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

Jamie wrote: <Of course, servalan is just too obvious a name.> Nothing wrong with obvious (and there's at least an even chance that someone will recognise the name from the series. Which hasn't been shown here for many many years, but for some reason Her Supremeness is considered ... memorable ...) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: Re: [B7L] Oddments (was no subject)
by Sally Manton 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

Jacqui wrote: <What sort of computer viruses would Star One have had?> Greengoos-R-Us? and Helen: <Does anyone else here name their cars? My husband and I named our first one "Liberator" - for the ship.> Ummm ... mine's the Yellow Peril (Peri for short), not very B7-ish. Did think - re naming computers - that it would be quite fun to have a 'Slave' at work (especially if one could put up a couple of his crawlier soundbytes for starting up and closing down). _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [B7L] Torture in the Federation
by Sally Manton 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

Stephen wrote: <Avon, on the other hand, gets the Liberator blown up on a wild goose chase and half an hour later Dayna's asking him "Don't you get tired of always being right ?" To which he has the mortal impudence to respond "Only with the rest of you being wrong".> <gurgle> but Stephen, Avon really truly *doesn't* think he did anything wrong in Terminal, even if it all went haywire on him. Witness the fact that, once he and Orac get a firm lead on his 'one line through the pattern of infinity', he promptly and pretty much does it all over again (okay, so he told them this time. But not till they'd blown up Xenon and were on route to GP and Blake, and weren't likely to do a Tarrant and try and stop him). < Actually, the thing that strikes me about the Liberator/ Scorpio crews is how terribly forgiving they all are. <snip> In fact I can only think of three incidents where a character gets reminded of his failings in a previous episode. Trial, obviously. The Keeper, in which Blake alludes to Avon's unfortunate phone call to Space Command HQ. And Blake when Tarrant reminds Avon that he took them into Terminal blind. There you have it - The B7 crew, an example to us all.> Lovely - another small nugget to add to my set of reasons why Blake Will Forgive Avon For Shooting Him (eventually, of course :-)) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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