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Re: [B7L] Chris Boucher
by Tavia 03 May '01

03 May '01

Jenny wrote: >although there may be fans out there who >have no idea who Chris Boucher is, and what his contribution to the series >involved Well, at risk of provoking general mirth, I'll stand up and be counted and say I'd never heard of Chris Boucher when I first joined Lysator. Tavia

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Re: [B7L] Chris Boucher
by Jenny Kaye 03 May '01

03 May '01

>From: Julia Jones <julia.jones(a)jajones.demon.co.uk> >CC: blakes7(a)lists.lysator.liu.se >Subject: Re: [B7L] Chris Boucher >Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:46:08 -0700 > >In message <F79a1kg3AmsfGdMNFmW0000ee8d(a)hotmail.com>, Jenny Kaye ><jennycat55(a)hotmail.com> writes > >Hey, wait a minute! All I did was make a bit of a joke, cause I thought >it was > >a > >bit funny that the announcement about ebay told everyone who Chris >Boucher was > >and that he wrote Rumours of Death, when they would surely already know >that if > >they watch B7. > >Why would they necessarily know that if they watch B7? It's unlikely >that anyone could subscribe to this list for more than a few months >without becoming aware of the Church of Boucher, but not all fans are >aware of (or even interested in) who was involved in a show other than >the actors, especially if they're new to the fandom. Such fans might >still be interested in acquiring memorabilia from people involved in the >show. So what you are saying is, that although there may be fans out there who have no idea who Chris Boucher is, and what his contribution to the series involved, they still may be interested in buying his copy of a script? It's possible I suppose, but IMO not very likely. If their interest in the show's production is so scant, why should they then consider spending £20, £30 perhaps £50 or more on a script they have a video of anyway, instead of on something more directly related to the actors? I would be interested to know just how many people on this list really do not know who Chris Boucher is. Perhaps they would like to make themselves known :-)... Jenny _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] Re: This is *my* ship ...
by J MacQueen 03 May '01

03 May '01

>From: Julia Jones <julia.lysator(a)jajones.demon.co.uk> >(And no, I did *not* mean that the way I would have on The Other List, >so get your minds out of the gutter.) <mock solemnity> This, of course, is what happens to scarlet (leather) women. Let it be warning to us all. </mock solemnity> Regards Joanne _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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If you could change...
by Leia Fee 03 May '01

03 May '01

Hmm tricky.... Most of what I'd like to change others have already commented on but here goes. 3 things about the series... 1. Show it after the watershed...the darker side of things had a lot of potential that couldn't be explored in an early evening slot. 2. Explore the background a bit. I would have loved to here more about the Federation, it's history, more about the social and political setup. Also more about the characters background, we hear a bit about Blake and Avon but very little about the rest. It would ahve been nice to see Jenna as smuggler, Vila as 'full-time' thief. 3. Bigger budget. Not that I mind wibbly sets or anything but it would be nice to see what they could have done given more money and todays technology. 3 Episodes to change... 1. The Way Back. I'd have liked to see how the others ended up in that holding cell too, course that would have made it rather over 50 minutes but there we go... Kinda fits with my wanting more background I guess. 2. Aftermath. More on what happened to everyone else. I have liked to see Blake and Jenna escape too. ("Jenna's gone with Blake." - aren't those escape capsules one person only...a bit cosy wouldn't it have been?<grin> And once they did seperate why did Blake go to Epheron and Jenna to Morphenniel. Why didn't they try to get back to the Liberator why why and so on... 3. Warlord. Vila seems to have more or less shrugged off nearly being done in by Avon. I'd have liked to se the repercussions adressed a bit more. Leia

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This is *my* ship ...
by Sally Manton 03 May '01

03 May '01

Stephen wrote: <Fairly strongly is putting it mildly - The Liberator is his price for his participation in the attack on control.> Yes ... and no. He does this quite carefully, you will notice (sorry, long quote coming) ... BLAKE: Yes, that had occurred to me. You better start getting kitted up. Do you want to tell me why? AVON: I like the challenge. BLAKE: You dont want to tell me why. AVON: If we succeed, if we destroy Control, the Federation will be at its weakest. It will be more vulnerable than it has been for centuries. The revolt in the Outer Worlds will grow. The resistance movements on Earth will launch an all-out attack to destroy the Federation. They will need unifying. They will need a leader. YOU will be the natural choice. BLAKE: Possibly. AVON: Dont be modest, Blake. You are the only one that they would all follow. You would have no choice. You would have to stay on Earth and organize the revolt. BLAKE: If theres no other way. AVON: There wouldnt be. BLAKE: That still doesnt explain why youre backing me. AVON: With you running the campaign on Earth, somebody has to take charge of all this. BLAKE: [Laughs] You want the Liberator. AVON: [Almost laughs] Exactly. If we succeed, the destruction of Control gives us both what we want. Avon very carefully *doesn't* say that being given the Liberator is his price - that he won't join in unless Blake agrees to it. Instead, he puts it as the natural consequence of Blake succeeding (and therefore a strong reason for him to go), but not as a condition of his involvement. I think it's a rather brilliant way of putting a claim in *without* having to deal with Blake's answer to a more direct 'price'. This way, Blake knows he wants the ship, but he hasn't actually demanded it, Blake doesn't need to answer either way, and as a bonus, Avon has a nicely self-serving reason to Do The Right Thing. Gorgeous bit of verbal game-playing on both sides, actually. <After all, in pressure point the conversation between Avon and Blake presupposes that control of the Liberator is something that can be decided between Avon and Blake. (Interestingly Blake hedges. "There's no hurry" He needs Avon's cooperation at this point, but realises that the crew might have something to say).> Jenna might, true. From his knowledge of Cally and Vila, Blake could IMO predict that if Avon wanted command, Avon would have it (as in fact happened in S3). The ownership status of the Liberator is a difficult point (bearing in mind, of course, that the actual *legalities* of ownership would hardly count with this lot anyway). The three of them - Blake, Avon and Jenna - were sent onto the Liberator, but it was Blake who saved them from the same fate as Leylan's men. Then Jenna was the one whose mind Zen read, but that seems not to have counted for much where the crew (or indeed Zen) were concerned, and was never mentioned again. Blake clearly considers it his from the first. He calls it 'my ship' to Vargas; I hope he hasn't been silly enough to say it to the others *just* yet, but the line "I need a crew" was fairly blunt. In that wonderful bluff in Time Squad, he seamlessly shifts the status quo from 'not doing anything without discussing it thoroughly' to 'anyone who wants out of *his* agenda also wants to leave and should say so' (and I for one love it - and him). And Avon actually helps him ("Oh, I will ..." thereby conceding Blake's 'right' to do this, whether wittingly or not). After this, the others do seem to accept that if there's a disagreement about what the ship is being used for, it's the other person who has to leave, not Blake (Jenna and Gan as early as Time Squad, Avon and Vila in Breakdown) which would imply very strongly that they see it as his rather than a joint possession (Horizon is different, since Avon was IMO trying *very* hard to pretend that he believed that the evidence said that they might sort of kind of be dead. And failing utterly, BTW). _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] Re: If you could change ...
by Sally Manton 03 May '01

03 May '01

Andrew Williams wrote: <I remember another fan who couldn't watch the polystyrene rocks rolling downhill in Hostage without yelling out "Run away!" in the manner of Monty Python & the Holy Grail.> <choke> as if I didn't have enough problems with that bit as it is ... I have to admit, part of my personal fanon is that there's something in the air of Exbar that does serious (if, hopefully, temporary) damage to the brain, since every single person on the planet - goodies *and* baddies alike - act as if they've lost all claim to intelligence ... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] Re: If you could change ...
by Sally Manton 03 May '01

03 May '01

Julia wrote: <Blackadder circa The Great War seems to have pretty much the same view of life as Avon, at any rate.> Ohhhhh ... and speaking of 'who would you like to see on the Liberator' (which I believe we weren't for once :-)) that particular Blackadder would be an interesting guest ... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] If you could change ...
by J MacQueen 03 May '01

03 May '01

>From: "Andrew Williams" <awilliams(a)daikin.com.au> >I remember reading a review of 'Power' which said "Avon gets grabbed by >the hommiks (Oo-er!)" and of course now I can't watch that episode >without it springing to mind. You fiend! You've just reminded ME of the entry in the Completely Useless book (Doctor Who) about Herbert being grabbed by the guardoliers in Timelash. Lucky Tekker was in charge, forestalling a similar fate... Regards Joanne _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] Chris Boucher
by Sally Manton 03 May '01

03 May '01

Annie wrote: <People generally buy scripts from shows they like because they like the show and have an interest in the script, not because it belonged to "Chris Boucher" or anyone else in particular. At least, that's been my experience!> This is a good point, though one has to admit that (having as little money, but even less sense then as I do now), I probably wouldn't have taken as much note of a 'script by Chris Boucher' (as I said, not knowing how wonderful he is :-)) as 'a script by the same writer that gave us Shadow, Star One and Blake' ... now *that* would have gotten my attention even as a complete newbie. But of course that's just me ... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] Chris Boucher
by Ashton7＠aol.com 03 May '01

03 May '01

In a message dated 5/2/01 5:50:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jennycat55(a)hotmail.com writes: << Ah, but at that point, would you have wanted to buy his copy of the script :-)? >> People generally buy scripts from shows they like because they like the show and have an interest in the script, not because it belonged to "Chris Boucher" or anyone else in particular. At least, that's been my experience! Annie

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