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The Wrong Lie?
by Dana Shilling 14 Jan '02

14 Jan '02

Thanks to all for the replies. However, if you don't know you've been mind-wiped until after the mind-wipe fails, you might present a vivid counter-example to others, but YOU aren't suffering. Considering the Federation's opinion of rebellion, I'd think they'd a) make sure that the conditioning DIDN'T break down [I know, then there's no series, but still] and b) make sure that the convicted rebel knew damn well what had happened to him/her and his/her family. -(Y)

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Re: The wrong lie
by Helen Krummenacker 14 Jan '02

14 Jan '02

I think it's a good idea not to tell Blake his family has been killed as a punishment for his crimes. Not matter how they might have convinced him through brainwashing he'd been misguided, the moment he knew his family-- nonviolent (presumably) civilians-- had been executed because the statedisapproved of his actiivities, he knows he was justified after all. The punishment of innocents can hardly be excused by a person of strong ideas. He'd go right back to fighting-- especially since this time he wouldn't have family to worry about.

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Re: [B7L] Which female characters to write about
by Marian de Haan 13 Jan '02

13 Jan '02

Helen: >> >> I'd like to vote for Piri too, with Servalan as a second option. Minnie: >> >Only if she can be pulled apart by wild horses or something equally destructive :) Piri that is, not Servie :) >Me: >> Servie too, please :-) Minnie: >Would you compromise and have Servie riding one of the horses pulling Piri apart? :) I'd prefer it the other way round, giving Servie the opportunity to rue her observation about Piri being a credit to their sex - but only if afterwards the horse would bolt, throwing Piri off into a bottomless ravine :-) Marian

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Re: [B7L] testing my new bracelet
by Sally M 13 Jan '02

13 Jan '02

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Give Me Librium or Give Me Meth
by Dana Shilling 13 Jan '02

13 Jan '02

Presumably Servalan and Travis aren't up to their eyeballs in suppressants (it's really scary to think that they're heavily medicated and would be more... extreme...otherwise). But in TWB, Blake is a high-caste respectable citizen and has to be told to avoid food and drink, so he is given suppressants. Were civilians but not the military given suppressants? Or only rank and file soldiers but not officers or not senior officers? And does the Pylene-50 pacification program show that a) after the Andromedan War, the ordinary suppressants could no longer be administered? b) the Pylene-50 was just supposed to be topped up? c) TPTB forgot about the earlier reference to suppressants? -(Y)

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The Wrong Lie?
by Dana Shilling 13 Jan '02

13 Jan '02

The Way Back implies that Blake has been getting forged tapes from his brother and sister, who actually are dead. Wouldn't the lie, if any, go in the other direction? At that stage, Blake is a convicted and supposedly rehabilitated rebel and traitor. Wouldn't The Powers that Be want him to feel a constant sense of guilt for getting his family killed (whether or not this had actually happened) instead of wanting him to think that his family were still alive off-world? In the latter case, they *could* serve as hostages for his continued good behavior, but in the former, he would be an awe-inspiring example of the high cost of rebellion and therefore an effective deterrent. -(Y)

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Re: [B7L] The Wrong Lie?
by Betty Ragan 13 Jan '02

13 Jan '02

Dana Shilling wrote: > Wouldn't the lie, if any, go in the other direction? > At that stage, Blake is a convicted and supposedly > rehabilitated rebel and traitor. Wouldn't The Powers > that Be want him to feel a constant sense of guilt > for getting his family killed (whether or not this > had actually happened) instead of wanting him to > think that his family were still alive off-world? One reason they might want to keep up this particular illusion is as a surveillance method, I suppose. Presumably if Blake's siblings "write" to him, he'll send his own vistapes back, and the Feds can monitor them for any traces that Blake's conditioning is slipping. Maybe they enven deliberately include stuff in the faked tapes designed to test or reinforce that conditioning. (Sorry to send this to you twice, Dana. I hit The Wrong Button.) -- Betty Ragan ** ragan(a)sdc.org ** http://www.sdc.org/~ragan/ "Voyager sucks so much it spontaneously warped the fabric of space-time." -- "the Grouchybeast," explaining how they got to the Delta Quadrant.

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testing my new bracelet
by Natasa Tucev 12 Jan '02

12 Jan '02

Hi everyone, for some time now I've been unable to post to the Lyst. Now my server has changed its hardware and operational system, so I want to see if my mail will pass through this time. Happy Ortodox New Year - it's tommorow. N.

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computer game
by Debbie Day 12 Jan '02

12 Jan '02

I tried to download this but nothing happened - has anybody else downloaded the new game and is it worth it? Debbie

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Re: [B7L] Which female characters to write about
by Marian de Haan 12 Jan '02

12 Jan '02

Minnie wrote: >Helen wrote: >> I'd like to vote for Piri too, with Servalan as a second option. > >Only if she can be pulled apart by wild horses or something equally >destructive :) Piri that is, not Servie :) Servie too, please :-) Marian

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