"JEB31538" == JEB31538 JEB31538@cs.com writes:
So I'm reading this very late and it's hopefully all over, but I feel I should make some sort of response and this was a good post to hang it off of.
There are many people on Lysator who in my opinion should simply be ignored.
You are of course completely free to do so, as is everyone else.
The inane arguments which last for weeks could not exist if the people on the list who have some common sense, brains, and courtesy would just ignore the posters who seem to thrive on conflict and whose seeming only purpose is to stir up trouble.
True. And I must say that overall I am quite pleased with how you all on the list have handled the latest debacle. I have seen far worse responses to kooks and trolls. I also hope that you will remember this when the next kook appears, so that you all start ignoring it earlier.
And some of the posters are frankly so unbelievably rude and mean I frankly wish Calle would unsub them after they have made two or three rude or vicious remarks to other list members. That is one of things I really despise about this list--that such rude behaviour is tolerated.
Any freedom of expression worth the name must necessarily include the freedom to behave like a complete and total asshole. If you want a list where rudeness is outlawed, you'll have to start your own (or, of course, wait until someone else does it).
The correct response to someone who is being rude on the net is not to try and shut them up, it is to stop listening to them and to not reply to their posts. By using killfiles (or, with more sophisticated software, filters and prioritisers) it is easy to do so.
And electronic vandalism of any sort should never be tolerated.
Very much true. The proper response to _that_ level of misbehaviour is to contact the relevant abuse authorities (if it's hard to figure out who that is, ask the abuse people at your own ISP to help find out where to send complaints) and have them deal with the problem in RL.
And personally I find some of the current posters to be totally creepy. I do not understand why Lysator attracks some of the mean people it does.
As of this moment, we have about 250 people on the list. I don't think it's realistic to expect _all_ of them to be nice.