On Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:17:26 +0000 (GMT) =?iso-8859-1?q?Stephen=20Date?= stephend999@yahoo.co.uk writes:
I think the Federation would have been interested in experiments in this direction. My own personal explanation as to why the Mutoid crew promised to Travis in Trial turned into Mutoids is that the Crimmos were merely a nastier version i.e Criminal Psychopaths modified to direct their sadistic tendencies against the Federation's enemies.
It could be the limiter was a new application of already existing technology (like implants that might have already been in use in Crimmos and Mutoids), but working in a different way.
Since we don't see them again, I'd guess the experiment was largely a failure. This could have been just because one man in possession of one still managed to become a high profile rebel/terrorist or it could have been more practical problems (if we assume Gan's normal personality has been largely unchanged by his implant, then he's an unusually nice and easy going guy - not the target audience for violence control. If this is the case, even people just falling into the 'normal' range of violent impulses may have suffered severe mental and personality disturbance [sure, you wouldn't think it would work that way, but that's what throws a left curve in a lot of experiments - the unanticipated side effects]).
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And I suppose there are not a lot of stories you can do with limters Any advances on a) They have them b) They go wrong (as in B7?)
c) You dope your friend/enemy and for dubious reasons fit one when they sleep, but don't tell them and they discover at an inopportune moment. Much getting done over psychological angst. d) you explore the life of the creator/ control systems of them (what was the dream of the creator and why it all went wrong or indeed, right - variation on chemical castration?) e) you find a way of tapping into them to control people in other ways, creating a mutoid-plus genre. Mutoids that argue but are forced to comply anyway?
which might all be variations on a) and b)...
Emma (in uncharacteristic posting frenzy, will go back to lurking now)
Emma said:
c) You dope your friend/enemy and for dubious reasons fit one when they sleep, but don't tell them and they discover at an inopportune moment.
Much
getting done over psychological angst. d) you explore the life of the creator/ control systems of them (what was the dream of the creator and why it all went wrong or indeed, right - variation on chemical castration?)
It would be a kick in the head if Blake's next engineering assignment after the Aquitar Project went toes was designing limiters.
e) you find a way of tapping into them to control people in other ways, creating a mutoid-plus genre. Mutoids that argue but are forced to comply anyway?
Just ask Avon--he'd say that that's the story of his life for two seasons.
-(Y)
Ellynne wrote:
Since we don't see them again, I'd guess the experiment was largely a failure.
I suspect the whole project was quietly buried, to avoid the administrators embarrassment by revealing they'd actually shipped their only prototype to a prison colony - and *then* lost it en route.
steve
Steve Kilbane steve@whitecrow.demon.co.uk wrote:
Ellynne wrote:
Since we don't see them again, I'd guess the experiment was largely a failure.
I suspect the whole project was quietly buried, to avoid the administrators embarrassment by revealing they'd actually shipped their only prototype to a prison colony - and *then* lost it en route.
steve
Perhaps 'they' did a batch, and when one or two started malfunctioning - as Gan did - they hurridly shipped the rest off to prison colonies. (What Gan did would probably currently be classified as manslaughter)
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Jacqui said:
Perhaps 'they' did a batch, and when one or two started malfunctioning
They got them from the same place the System bought its !@@###$% teleport bracelets
(What Gan did would probably currently be classified as manslaughter)
Under New York state law, intentional and premeditated killing is classified as Second Degree Murder, unless the decedent is a police officer or prison guard, in which case it's First Degree Murder. Federation law would probably treat killing military personnel as a crime of the highest degree (possibly even Petit Treason) even absent premeditation.
-(Y) "I was afraid, I was tetraploid, Couldn't live another day without you by my side..."
"Dana Shilling" dshilling@worldnet.att.net wrote:
Jacqui said:
Perhaps 'they' did a batch, and when one or two started malfunctioning
They got them from the same place the System bought its !@@###$% teleport bracelets >(What Gan did would probably currently be classified as manslaughter) Under New York state law, intentional and premeditated killing is classified as Second Degree Murder, unless the decedent is a police officer or prison guard, in which case it's First Degree Murder. Federation law would probably treat killing military personnel as a crime of the highest degree (possibly even Petit Treason) even absent premeditation.
-(Y) "I was afraid, I was tetraploid, Couldn't live another day without you by my side..."
I was using the English definition (I do not know what the equivalent terms in Scottish, Manx and Channel Islands law are): Gan was reacting to a situation.
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