Interesting idea that Cally got waif-ized to make her more appealing to Avon....how sexist of them. Why alter *her* to fit *him* rather than vice versa
I didn't take Ellynne's post to mean Cally was 'Waifed' to *make* her more appealling to Avon, by the writers. Although that's not unthinkable, an attempt to parrallel Blake and Jenna with the new lead couple, except that they weren't really written as a couple. It's the audience that sees it in the apparent chemistry. Others have said they saw Avon being attracted to Cally in her first few (pre-Waif) episodes, and later he became disinterested. What I got from what Ellynne was saying is this-- a person with trust issues will be more inclined to trust someone who is a bit needy. That's a simplified way of looking at it of course-- my sister-in-law, for instance, appears to be very needy, but she is also trustworthy as a politician. Still, it's easier to feel at ease in a relationship if you believe yourself to be the more powerful personality. I don't think the series weakened Cally's personality to make her more attractive to Avon; however, they may have believed it would make her more attractive to the male fans, or more sympathetic to the females. Or, it may be that the Tarrant-Avon rivalry was being played up by the writers to the point they didn't know what to do with the other members. Dayna and Soolin rarely got parts that were any better, although Dayna was cast as the 'bloodthirsty' one.. and perhaps it is Dayna's introduction that was ultimately responsible for Cally's softening. After all, there had to be some definite marks of distinction. Dayna was introduced as a warrior; Cally had been too, once, but in the season and more-than-a-half after, had been given a kinder side and a mystic-race background. Dayna could not be changed radically between her first and third appearences; on the other hand, they could sweep Cally's "May you die alone and silent!" side under the rug. Without a definite new direction for Cally, then, she comes across as a Waif.
On Mon 11 Jun, Helen Krummenacker wrote:
Interesting idea that Cally got waif-ized to make her more appealing to Avon....how sexist of them. Why alter *her* to fit *him* rather than vice versa
I didn't take Ellynne's post to mean Cally was 'Waifed' to *make* her more appealling to Avon, by the writers. Although that's not unthinkable, an attempt to parrallel Blake and Jenna with the new lead couple, except that they weren't really written as a couple. It's the audience that sees it in the apparent chemistry. Others have said they saw Avon being attracted to Cally in her first few (pre-Waif) episodes, and later he became disinterested.
Paul always said that Avon was attracted to *women*, not girls. While I don't necessarily take Paul's views as canon, I think the chemistry on screen was always with strong women like Servalan (and Soolin towards the end of the season as she got stronger as a character - I don't see romance, but I do see chemistry).
Judith
Helen Krummenacker wrote:
and perhaps it is Dayna's introduction that was ultimately responsible for Cally's softening. After all, there had to be some definite marks of distinction. Dayna was introduced as a warrior; Cally had been too, once, but in the season and more-than-a-half after, had been given a kinder side and a mystic-race background. Dayna could not be changed radically between her first and third appearences; on the other hand, they could sweep Cally's "May you die alone and silent!" side under the rug.
Excellent point! And I think probably a significant factor.
Without a definite new direction for Cally, then, she comes across as a Waif.
That raises the question of what else they *could* have done with Cally. Ideally, she could have become Blake's successor in the sense of promoting pro-rebellion actions. It would have flipped the dynamics of the first season a bit: we'd still have had the pragmatist vs. the idealist, but it would have been the pragmatist who held the power position.
Somehow I think Cally would have been better as persuading the others to join her in ganging up on their leader and overruling him on occasion than Avon ever was. :-)
Susan Beth (susanbeth33@mindspring.com)
Susan Beth,
That raises the question of what else they *could* have done with Cally. Ideally, she could have become Blake's successor in the sense of promoting pro-rebellion actions. It would have flipped the dynamics of the first season a bit: we'd still have had the pragmatist vs. the idealist, but it would have been the pragmatist who held the power position.
Somehow I think Cally would have been better as persuading the others to join her in ganging up on their leader and overruling him on occasion than Avon ever was. :-)
Your suggestion of Cally being Blake's successor as leader is very good, and a nice subject for anyone writing fanfiction.
Murray
Murray mjsmith@tcd.ie wrote:
Susan Beth,
That raises the question of what else they *could* have done with Cally. Ideally, she could have become Blake's successor in the sense of promoting pro-rebellion actions. It would have flipped the dynamics of the first season a bit: we'd still have had the pragmatist vs. the idealist, but it would have been the pragmatist who held the power position.
Somehow I think Cally would have been better as persuading the others to join her in ganging up on their leader and overruling him on occasion than Avon ever was. :-)
Your suggestion of Cally being Blake's successor as leader is very good, and a nice subject for anyone writing fanfiction.
Murray
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Umm, I'm not sure who said this, but I think Susan Beth...
That raises the question of what else they *could* have done with
Cally.
Ideally, she could have become Blake's successor in the sense of
promoting
pro-rebellion actions.
But the problem is that the formal chain of command on the Liberator only ran from Blake to Cally, because she was the only one who really endorsed rebellion. So that left no one to follow her, once she assumed Blake's "command." I don't think the problem was necessarily her being female, because of the assonant Avalon-vs-Servalan standoff.
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