Blakes7 February 2001

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Re: [B7L] Re: fandom
by Ellynne G. 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:32:47 EST Ashton7(a)aol.com writes: > Just about > *any* hobby can sound pathetic to those who aren't interested in it. > Some > people like to catalog insects (B7 reference! <g>) and others like > to catalog > things in their favorite tv show. Where's the difference? > It's in the explanations. When I went through and counted every time Vader in the novel version of Star Wars used a name or title to address someone or speak of them, I said it was for literary analysis in the evaluation of character motivation*. That way, it was a good thing. If I'd been doing it just because I was obsessive compulsive about a show, _that_ would mean I had a problem. So, it's perfectly all right to know how many times Avon wore a particular outfit and under what circumstances if you add something about it's telling symbolism for his character (ie, did he wear it because he liked it or because he couldn't be bothered to pay attention to what he grabbed out of the closet in the morning?). Ellynne *If there's anyone who wants to know, Vader almost completely avoided anything that wasn't a pronoun when he could. He made an exception for Tarkin and Ben, although he never used a title with Tarkin (his nominative superior), although Tarkin and Kenobi broke even for nonpronoun forms of address (four out of seven, I think [but it depends on how you rate 'Old man' (insulting? familiar? synonym for father figure?)]). The big exception was Princess Leia. Vader used either a respectful form of her name, a title, or a formal form of address (although, like Han, he wasn't above making 'your highness' derogatory) nearly 80% of the time. As she was the only woman we see on the Death Star, pronouns wouldn't have been too confusing.

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Re: [B7L] Re: Blakes7 digest, Vol 1 #104 - 19 msgs
by Ellynne G. 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:14:32 -0700 Helen Krummenacker <avona(a)jps.net> writes: > > > ObB7: I seem to be in a minority that actually liked Cally's red > Saurian > > > Major outfit. It makes her look chunky. > > Speaking as a chunky person myself, I wouldn't go that far--but I > > think it's a little conspicuous for guerilla work. > > > I liked it. > As for conspicuousness, well, it depends. In the dark, red is nearly > as > good as black for reflecting little light. And there wasn't much in > the > way of vegetation on the planet, it seems. Wasn't the vegetation red? Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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Re: [B7L] Re: fandom
by Sally Manton 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Helen wrote: <Reason 5 mundanes don't get into fandom-- when you describe anything we do, it tends to sound extremely pathetic.> Like sending all the way to England for 2-inch models of My Darlings to set up in front of my computer with the *gorgeous* Avonic wallpaper and the mumbledy number of downloads which is in front of a corkboard with Leah's cartoons and quotes from the show. And downloading the Nokia chimes when someone found them for me even though I have no use for it yet? Pathetic? Nahhh ... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] Re: birdsOddly, the Federation seemed to populate the galaxy with o...
by Ashton7＠aol.com 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

In a message dated 2/19/01 2:54:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, N.Faulkner(a)tesco.net writes: << he Ruddy Duck has extended its range into Spain, where it readily hybridises with the native White-Headed Duck. Admittedly it was Brits who let the Ruddy fly free in the first place. A cull is now underway. >> Nobody tell Bizarro7 Blake! ;-) Annie

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Re: [B7L] Re: fandom
by Tavia Chalcraft 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Annie wrote: >About as pathetic as grown men and women wandering around hitting >a tiny ball with a stick (golf) .... [some more hilarious examples cut] >Just about *any* hobby can sound pathetic to those who aren't >interested in it. Some people like to catalog insects (B7 reference! <g>) >and others like to catalog things in their favorite tv show. >Where's the difference? There are some very obvious differences between sporting pursuits and television/computer-based pursuits. My usual retort to those who classify fandom with trainspotting (ie most of my acquaintance) is that nearly everyone watches television (some fans less than average), non-fans are content to sit and watch, while fans try to participate in social and/or creative ways. Tavia http://www.viragene.com/

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Re: Richard III [was Re: [B7L] Mary Sues]
by Marian de Haan 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Jacqui asked: >(But who would be Henry VII?)< Servalan. Marian

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Re: [B7L] Re: Blakes7 digest, Vol 1 #104 - 19 msgs
by Sally Manton 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Neil: <ObB7: I seem to be in a minority that actually liked Cally's red Saurian Major outfit. It makes her look chunky.> and Helen: <I liked it.> I did think it was one of her best. The ones that make her look (if such a thing is possible) thinner I find a little painful. I like her hair best in this early period too (before she tried to re-style it with a blowtorch in Redemption). _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: Fwd: Re: [B7L] Sally-speak (was: Was it something I said :-)
by Tavia Chalcraft 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

And Avalon, of course.

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Re: Fwd: Re: [B7L] Sally-speak (was: Was it something I said :-)
by Tavia Chalcraft 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Wendy wrote: >It's a weird mix of sugary sentiment andterrifying cruelty. Um. It's a joke. >If somebody wrote about one of the girls >being sadistically tortured, there'd be an outcry. Well, apart from *three* torture scenes involving women I can think of in the series offhand (Cally in SLD, Jenna in Horizon, Kasabi in PP), not to mention that wall scene (RoD), there's an awful lot of fic involving Servalan torture. Though I wouldn't call her a girl to her face. (IFWY, I wouldn't call me a girl to my face.) Tavia

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Re: Blakes7 digest, Vol 1 #104 - 19 msgs
by Helen Krummenacker 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

> > ObB7: I seem to be in a minority that actually liked Cally's red Saurian > > Major outfit. It makes her look chunky. > Speaking as a chunky person myself, I wouldn't go that far--but I > think it's a little conspicuous for guerilla work. > I liked it. As for conspicuousness, well, it depends. In the dark, red is nearly as good as black for reflecting little light. And there wasn't much in the way of vegetation on the planet, it seems. So, if her group generally operated in red soil area and mostly went out to do raids at night... I'm stretching too far, aren't I?

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