Blakes7 February 2001

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Re: answering Neil
by Helen Krummenacker 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

> (that's a British fag end, not what > you Americans might think!). "cigarette butt," in Americanese, I believe. > > Still, one of the values of making outrageously presumptuous statements is > the way it prompts swift clarification, engendering a positive transfer of > information transmission of a corrective nature in the direction of an > individual who misguidedly pertains to the notion that deployment of > gratuitous polysyllables in a complex predicate statement might make him > look less of a complete idiot. ::snicker:: At least it's a very satisfying way of writing when you run 'word count' functions that give you the average word length. > And not a trace of an American > accent, which I wouldn't be surprised if Xena's got. Lucy Lawless is formerly an opera singer. As a New Zealander, I doubt she has an American accent. To dull American ears, however, New Zealanders and Canadians tend to sound a lot 'like us' as opposed to the delicious exoticness of Australian and most British dialects. > And definitely no > chickadees singing in the background. > Well, you would know better than I would what songbirds you find in Greece.

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Re: What makes a fannish show? (was Re: [B7L] fannishness)
by Sally Manton 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Has anyone else seen a little Danish show called 'The Kingdom'? It was on our local multicultural channel - a grotesque sort of horror-medical-soapie-with-ghosts that was strangely addictive and apparently huge in its home country. They had to stop making it because the actor playing the (very unpleasant) lead actor died. I've never quite understood my own enjoyment of that one, having no taste for horror, soapies or hospital dramas. It wasn't the characters either - they were all grotesques (and dubbed ones at that :-)) but there it was, and I did like it. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: fandom
by Helen Krummenacker 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Neil said > though I find the whole idea of Xena ideologically repellent Please explain? Perhaps you're taking the 'warrior princess' as a literal description? (someone who has watched more correct me if I'm wrong) Xena is the daughter of a feamle inn-keeper. After war sweepingt hrough the land became too much of a problem, she took up arms and began to put together a band to fight back. As she became more succesful, she fought for merchenary reasons, rather than to protect. After defeat at the hands of an idealist, she was remided of why she'd become a warrior in the first place-- the non-warriors need protection. So, to make amends for being greedy, she wanders around helping anyone who needs her assistance and donates any fees for her work to the peasents. "From each according to their ability; to each according to their need." Where's the ideological repulsion, Neil?

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Re: Character junnkie vs. other attractions
by Harriet Monkhouse 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Neil speculated: >(Now, how to go about converting Sally. This wil >rekwire the suptle approche, sines of flatery boxis >of chocklits flours pretending to luv (chiz) whizzo >computer feend ect) And redd peeveecee trowsers. Downt fourgit. Harriere

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Re: Was it something I said
by Harriet Monkhouse 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Cheryl wrote: >I was drawn to the character, nonetheless, but >don't ask me what the pull was - I simply don't know You see? you see? you have demonstrated yourself a person of exquisite taste and sensibility and forced me to reply. Can we interest you in the two-inch model available via Judith's site (and that's his full height, we're not on the other list)? In another thread, Anna wrote: >Another show I'd watch sometimes was Hercules: The >Legendary Journeys, but more to see Iolaus (Michael Hurst) *Another* person of exquisite taste and sensibility! One of the weirdest dreams I've had recently had me pairing off with Kevin Sorbo, who I don't fancy at all, purely because I was so moved by the lovely way he talked about Michael Hurst. Harriere

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Re: The List
by Helen Krummenacker 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Just a mention on who I reply to... I don't usually know who I'm replying to when I first hit reply (only a small segment of the message is showing, what prompts be to answer, and it usually does not include the name of the writer.) I scroll up or down after to see who it is if I very much want to quote by name or if I want to reply off list, in which case I have to copy and paste their name and delete the list. Therefore, I hope NO ONE is offended if I answer some more often than others. I do usually know Neil's posts while reading as he has a tendancy to choose different subjects and approach them different ways. With Mistral, Ellynne and Kathryn's posts, I can tell it's one of them and frequently which one. All others I must check names on, and even with the people I know, I reply based on whether the topic stirs me to contribute.

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Re: [B7L] fannishness
by Bizarro7＠aol.com 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

In a message dated 2/18/01 5:26:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, inquisitioner(a)wish.net writes: << Reading about the death of Richie Ryan (who's always been one of my fave characters on that show) and about the subsequent snubbing that fans who didn't like this got, I lost all interest in that particular show. When they continued it here in Holland (they'd only shown four seasons up till then), I didn't bother to watch. Yes, it's on at an inconvenient time, but if it hadn't been for their attitude, I would have taped it. >> Well, it doesn't help that one of the writers seems to feel that the only way to generate high drama in a series is to kill off one of the major characters. This has gone on across the board, in all the series I've seen the author work in, from FOREVER KNIGHT to HIGHLANDER to QUEEN OF SWORDS to HIGHLANDER: ENDGAME. We need a touch of change, here. (Yes, this is the one who wanted Methos to die at the end of his first appearance on HL, and the head writer put a stop to it, seeing the potential to the character). What the HL producers want to do next is....create a new HIGHLANDER series in the franchise, with a very young new immortal who's sort of like Richie Ryan. GAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!! Anything for that coveted teen-age demographic. Don't listen to us. We're just the fans.

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Re: The Lyst
by Helen Krummenacker 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

> I > had a great deal of difficulty sticking out the first few months myself, > until I'd built enough friendships to have some sense of belonging. It > has been worth the effort; but not every person is going to fit into > every group. Ah, a difference at last! I felt at home right away. In fact, I found people here nicer than I expected.

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Was it something I said :-)
by Cheryl _ 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

I like Blake's 7 - I thought I'd like to talk to other Blake seven fans about the show, so I decided to join a mailing list. When I first posted and said hello to you all, and received no response (although, I will add, I have since been welcomed by one person)I didn't think of you all as rude(although if I'd walked into a room full of you people and the same situation occurred, I most definitely would have). I have wasted precious time, giving you all the benefit of the doubt, by posting enough posts, to be sure I actually was being ignored - although, again this was rather obvious, as a couple of points I made in a couple of posts, were later, also stated by someone else - which means that either, they read my posts (agreed with that point at least) but did not wish to directly respond to me *OR* they had similar thoughts but did not know about mine, simply because they couldn't be bothered reading my posts - amounts to the same thing. You could have told me to bugger off - I wouldn't have liked it(who would?) but because I don't know any of you, you don't actually matter to me - so I would have been able to take it...At least it would have been honest. You people are exceptionally rude. Cheryl. (Who freely admits to herself, that she is possibly wasting her time, yet again, if no-one is actually reading her posts) *Chuckle* _____________________________________________________________________________ http://invites.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Invites - Organise your Mardi Gras party online!

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Re: [B7L] fannishness
by Bizarro7＠aol.com 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

In a message dated 2/18/01 5:19:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, mistral(a)centurytel.net writes: << Well, to be fair, when they give the viewers what they want, it frequently kills the show. For example, UST = viewer interest, resolving it = cancellation (Moonlighting, Scarecrow & Mrs. King, etc.) Maybe there is something to the idea of tension generating fandom. Though for me, I think it's just a matter of wanting to spend more time in that universe than are available on film.<< A good scriptwriter and producer recognizes the difference between *resolving* the tension in an ongoing continuity and *changing* the tension by development. Any good soap opera writer knows that requited love is a snore. JMS, Joss Whedon and other talented writers on TV today know that you have to work *hard* at complex overlays of tension, so that when one is resolved, a new one has already been forming for some time to hold the viewer's interest. And I don't think it's a coincidence that both writers have a greater ability to write strong, complex women and scripts that appeal to women. >>If Blake had destroyed the Federation and set up a new, democratic form of government, would there be anything left to write about 20 years later? >> In the hands of a good writer? Oyez, oyez. Off the top of my *un*talented head, Blake discovering his beloved wife has cheated with former ally and rebellious foe Kerr Avon. Cally has brought back the Auronae and are waging war with humans in retaliation and vengeance that Blake doesn't feel entirely unjustified. Orac has created a humanoid avatar (much like Rommie) who works with Avon and is every bit as difficult and obnoxious as his former incarnation, and Avon can't pull his key anymore. Servalan had her consciousness transplanted into Jenna's body a long time ago, and is secretly scheming behind Blake's back, undetected. And Tarrant has never forgiven Avon for getting Dayna butchered at Gauda Prime, and leads Blake's troops against the rebel. I'd watch.

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