Blakes7 February 2001

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Re: [B7L] Re: fandom
by Tavia Chalcraft 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Helen wrote: >Like Avon, Willow has computer skills that have been left out by scripts as she becomes more of a fighter/hero in her own right. I'd love to meet the alternate Avon then (as the alternate Willow was ...um... not very describable on this list). But I did rather bewail the loss of Willow the geek. Tavia

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Point of dispute...
by Nathan Hook 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

I may have taken this out of context, but Calle said that Lucy Lawless (Xena) was Australian. As a "kiwi" who knows that tall Lucy is in fact a New Zealander, I was most upset. Russell Crowe has a foot in both camps, being born in NZ and moving to ozzie and living there most of his life, that pretty much makes him ozzie. Lucy is most certainly "kiwi" however and as for the goldmining thing, well this is where I thought I may be out of context. Neil was mentioning accents. I guess in the case of Xena and Hercules these are for the most part, intended for US market demands and the US folk have more affinity with familiar accents. Besides, New Zealand accents would probably sound more peculiar. It is amusing seeing actors well known in NZ, having to "put on" a different voice though. It is amusing too that american accents carry less authenticity than proper British ones though. I recall an american actor saying how frustrating it was to do Shakespeare and then be seen as non-authentic because of the accent. he rightly pointed out that given the period you might be playing, ancient Rome for example, no-one would have been speaking in English public school system voices. nayte. --- I was never welcomed to the list either. But I never asked to be and given that most of the inhabitants are frequently deep in debate, I thought it safer to sit back and enjoy watching the light opera and make the occassinal quip. There are some excellent and interesting debates here. 'A lady of a "certain age", which means/ Certainly aged.'Byron. ------------------------------------------------------------ Free, BeOS-friendly email accounts: http://BeMail.org/ love and pixels .:. http://dieselsweeties.com/

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Re: fandom
by Helen Krummenacker 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

> > Is it because we, being imaginative, individualists, didn't 'fit in' > > when we were young and like characters who seem a little awkward > > sometimes? > > That would be my guess. We might wish we were heroes, but we know we're > really sidekick material (which is okay by me. Willow is more > interesting than Buffy any day. Of course Wills has her own sidekick > now; does that make Tara Vila?) > > Mistral Hmmm, actor(tress) good looking, but played down by costumes; character notable for loyalty but doesn't trust the others to reciprocate; family background held character back from success... Yes, Tara is Vila. Like Avon, Willow has computer skills that have been left out by scripts as she becomes more of a fighter/hero in her own right. (Willow slaying to vampires when she, Giles and Xander are filling in for Buffy; Willow the witch can acheive more than Willow the geek). Buffy and Blake, hmm-- Buffy has been framed for crimes (charges later dropped). Eerie.

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Re: fanfic
by Helen Krummenacker 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

> Oh, and let's not forget shows that were flawed (NOT B7, of course) that > could have been done better (I keep having this urge to 'fix' Return of > the Jedi and Phantom Menace [and I'm not up to it, believe me]). > Interesting you should mention this. I hated Phantom Menace-- and spent a week and a half rewriting it in my mind until I had a script 10 times better-- after all it's not enough to remove Jar-Jar, you have to make Darth Maul actually interesting and add elements of suspense that will keep people over the age of 9 wondering what will happen.

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Re: Belated greeting, Cheryl.
by Helen Krummenacker 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

> .At least it would have been > honest. You people are exceptionally rude. > > Cheryl. Cheryl, if you're still around-- you didn't say anything I thought needed to be defended or argued against, I suppose. I don't answer *MOST* posts, including those by people I'm very fond of. As I said to Mistral, usually the only replly I can make to her posts is the draful "Me, too" We don't generally do welcoming salutations on the list because we tend to be information-oriented people. If that strikes you as rude, you probably will be better off without us. If you want a conversation, the best way to start it is giving us a topic to chew on. Like, "Did Avon change from dull clothes to flashy duds because originally he was dressing to shelter himself from the other male prisoners on board the London? Or did the studs-and-leather look indicate embracing the more violent life of a guerilla rather than white-collar criminal?" I read all posts; I answer few, primarily because it takes a while to write.

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Going Private?
by Dana Shilling 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

In Horizon, Cally gives Vila a shot, he reacts with great pleasure, and she has to TELL him that it's adrenaline and soma--so presumably this is his first contact. Yet very shortly afterwards, when Cally reiterates to Blake that they need a rest, Blake says "What about the old adrenaline and soma?" and Cally says that they've "practically been living on it." What's this, then? Has Cally been dispensing a&s only to private patients, while denying it to Vila and Gan on the National Health? Or has Cally as HMO gatekeeper finally given Vila a referral? -(Y)

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Re: [B7L] Sally-speak
by littles＠lycos.co.uk 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

Carol said: > What I really wanted to say was that I'm glad you're still here, Wendy. Me too. You often seem to use a rather large hammer, but you inevitably hit the right nail... Shane "Don't you ever get bored, always being right?" "Only with the rest of you always being wrong."

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Fannishness & fanfiction
by Tavia Chalcraft 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

Like Neil, Blake's 7 is the only thing of which I'd call myself a fan. In my case I think there are two major elements: (1) the impressionable age at which I first saw the series (under 10) (2) the believable nastiness of the background, and its relevance to the here and now What I most like about the series is the characters, but there are plenty of series with similar believably mixed characters, and they haven't drawn me in in the same way. Why write fanfiction? In my case, purely because I saw good fanfiction on the web last April/May, and thought 'hey, I can do that!' and 'that looks like fun'. Probably nothing to do with the series at all, except that (IMO) it appears to spawn better fanfic, on average, than other series. I've not come up with an explanation for this observation. Tavia

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Re: [B7L] Sally-speak (was: Was it something I said :-)
by Mac4781＠aol.com 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

Wendy (quoting Sally) wrote: > > IHMO*only* - I am about to write something about > Tarrant. > > And just what do people have against him?! I really don't have an answer to that question, and I just used the quote to quote something. What I really wanted to say was that I'm glad you're still here, Wendy. I've never taken your posts to be trolling. I think what others see as trolling is a case of major frustration that comes from beating one's head against a brick wall. Which I can relate to. As a Tarrant fan, I've done a lot of that. And I know what's it like to be in the minority. I don't always agree with your opinions, but I'm always glad to see them. It's refreshing to see something other than the majority views. Carol

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Re: [B7L] fannishness
by Tavia Chalcraft 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

Leah & Neil... >>Leah: >> It's all about Sex.<< >>Neil: >Never heard of it. There ain't no such thing.< >Somebody wanna explain the birds, the bees and 'hide the banana' >to our esteemed listmate? It wasn't my strongest subject in parochial school. So who's organising the room allocation at Redemption? Perhaps those assembled could give Neil a personal demo? Tavia

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