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Re: [B7L] Re: Why some people become fans (and others don't)
by Tavia Chalcraft 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

Dana quoting me: >> (1) Equating 'fan' with 'nerd' and, therefore, avoiding any activity that >> smells of fandom in a wish not to become (or appear) a nerd. >For a lot of us, it's way too late for that. True nerdism implies not caring what other people think -- a noble ideal. >> (2) Equating 'fan' with someone who goes out and buys lots of merchandise >> attached to the show, thus making Evil Corporate People lots of money. >Whereas I'd argue precisely for the anticorporate nature of fandom-- >generating our own merchandise, without regard to the scenarios set out >by the corporate Guys of Gisbourne. So would I, but that's not the external perception of 'fans'. Tavia

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Re: Why some people become fans (and others don't)
by Tavia Chalcraft 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

Neil asked about why some people become fans and others don't. While I agree that introvert vs extrovert makes sense in this regard, I'm not at all sure that this is all there is to it. I've pondered this question a lot as my other half protests that there is little worse, in his opinion, than a 'fan' of anything. In his case, which may well extend to other non-fans, I can think of several possible reasons for Fan Avoidance Activities: (1) Equating 'fan' with 'nerd' and, therefore, avoiding any activity that smells of fandom in a wish not to become (or appear) a nerd. (2) Equating 'fan' with someone who goes out and buys lots of merchandise attached to the show, thus making Evil Corporate People lots of money. (3) Equating 'fan' with someone who has insufficient imagination or go-for-it to do something more useful, more original or more active with his/her time than the often computer-based fan pursuits (and let's be fair to OH: his chosen pursuits do not include bowls, pubbing or whatever else whoever suggested, more the fell-running, rock-climbing, theatre-going stratum). Tavia

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Re: [B7L] Re: Sally-speak
by Sally Manton 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

Betty wrote: <I, on the other hand, always refer to them as Our Protagonists, because, um, heroes some of 'em ain't... Besides, I'm sure at least two of them would object *strongly* to the appellation. :)> You don't think he'd object to My Darling ..? <veg> Especially since [a] I am still of the Firm Opinion that if - due to The Space/Time Phenomena Known as Mary-Sue - I landed on the Liberator, I'd not only *not* be His Darling, he'd have me out an airlock within a week (and that's 1st/2nd series only, where Fearless Leader wouldn't *let* him at first. 3rd series, I'd be lucky to last three days. [b] we're talking about someone for whom the height of passionate declaration of commitment is "she was important to me". :-) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] Was it something I said :-)
by Sally Manton 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

Tavia wrote: <Tavia (who often feels that people ignore her posts, but now realises why...)> Nonononono, look on it as everyone agreeing with *everything* they don't actually answer to. Works wonders if you can make yourself swallow it ;-) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] Sally's Terminology
by Sally Manton 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

Dana wrote: <Vila is one of the few characters who wears flat shoes.> Yeeesss, the high heels on My Darling's Lobster suit *are* rather noticeable, aren't they? (I still think he and Jenna were competing there ...) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] fannishness
by Sally Manton 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

Leah wrote: <Yes! I watch 'ALLO 'ALLO every single week because I'm in love with Officer Crabtree. Good moaning...> Hey now that I think of it ... Von Smallhausen. I *loved* Von Smallhausen ... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: Fwd: Re: [B7L] Sally-speak (was: Was it something I said :-)
by Sally Manton 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

Wendy wrote: <How would you like it if one of the guys started talking about "Jennakins" and calling Cally "My Loveydove?"> That would be fun, actually. Neil? and <IHMO*only* - I am about to write something about Tarrant.> <And just what do people have against him?!> Except for the Numquam, absolutely nothing (and they have dispensation.) I'm rather fond of Toothy, but only my own version ... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: What makes a fannish show? (was Re: [B7L] fannishness)
by Ashton7＠aol.com 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

In a message dated 2/18/01 9:28:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, susanbeth33(a)mindspring.com writes: << I don't think I've heard of a game show based fandom, but it wouldn't surprise me to learn there was one or two out there. >> One word: Survivor. Of course, I haven't seen any Survivor based fan fiction, but there is *definitely* a thriving fandom around the show with hot and heavy lists and message boards and websites and the like. Annie

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Identity crisis
by Harriet Monkhouse 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

Ah! Working a bit further through the backlog, I find that my namesake has arrived. And I loved Not To Know too. Er, should we make a pact about how to sign ourselves? Harriet M and Harriet B seems a possibility, though for some reason I don't like Harriet M. Harriet 1 and Harriet 2, with unsubtly different eyepatches? Or should I start practising for Redemption '03 now, and change my name to Jarriere? This might be unnecessarily narcissistic, however. Harriet Oh, bother. It's so automatic to type that, I'll never remember to stick on anything else... Attempting a compromise: Harriere

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Re: Sally-speak
by Betty Ragan 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

Sally wrote: > Our Heroes - the entire crew, yes even the ones I don't like. I, on the other hand, always refer to them as Our Protagonists, because, um, heroes some of 'em ain't... Besides, I'm sure at least two of them would object *strongly* to the appellation. :) -- Betty Ragan ** bragan(a)nrao.edu ** http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~bragan Not speaking for my employers, officially or otherwise. "Seeing a rotten picture for the special effects is like eating a tough steak for the smothered onions..." -- Isaac Asimov

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