Blakes7 March 2001

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I See Dead People
by Dana Shilling 14 Mar '01

14 Mar '01

OK, there's a necropolis in "Duel," but what do they do with dead bodies on Terra-- bury them? Cremate them? If there's a small population, there would probably be room for burials, but of course there would be no religious objections to cremation. -(Y)

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Re: copyright
by Steve Rogerson 14 Mar '01

14 Mar '01

Annie said: "It appears to me that US copyright law is very similar if not the same as international (and UK) copyright law. Whether or not the trademark laws are also the same, I have to admit I don't know. I can say, though, that trademark and copyright are two different things and you *can not* copyright a character name (or situation)." I'm not sure if that is true in the UK. The reason I say that is that I am currently reading Chris Boucher's Dr Who novel Corpse Marker in which the character Carnell from B7 appears. Now I understood that the reason Chris could do this was that he owned the copyright on the character Carnell. -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson Redemption 03, 21-23 February 2003, Ashford, Kent The 25th Anniversary Blake's 7 Convention The 10th Anniversary Babylon 5 Convention http://www.smof.com/redemption

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Re: [B7L] Re: use of image
by Shane Little 14 Mar '01

14 Mar '01

Steve wrote: > Shane said: "The defense rests. Prosecution opens: yes, it is possible under the > current > libel laws to sue someone for an altered image or explicit artwork," > > Not so clear as you suggest. The extrapolation from an altered photograph to a > piece of artwork both being covered by libel laws does not necessarily work and to > my knowledge has never been put to the test in court. Perhaps not, but in the case of a piece of nude artwork which receives wide circulation without comment from the actor, it could well be assumed that the actor had given their consent for it to be done, or even posed for the picture (depending of course on the image's realism), especially since no disclaimers appear to mark the image as totally unauthorised and unsanctioned. Which would certainly fit the bill as to an image using the actor's (facial) likeness which caused the actor distress and may, if s/he didn't want to be seen as the sort of person who would pose for dirty pictures (or allow these to be distributed), be seen by him/her as career-damaging. Maybe it hasn't been put to test in court but these days I wouldn't want to be the first to try. > As an aside, on a minor point, you said: "Legal rights aren't at issue here. > Rights of common decency are." I should point out it was you who said Sally had > "every right to ask for it to be removed". I was pointing out in response to this > that she didn't have legal rights. But those aren't always the most important ones to consider. Shane "Does my bum look big in this?" --Jenna Who needs Cupid? Matchmaker.com is the place to meet somebody. FREE Two-week Trial Membership at http://www.matchmaker.com/home?rs=200015

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Re: [B7L] Re: Blues war
by J MacQueen 14 Mar '01

14 Mar '01

>From: Fiona Moore <nydersdyner(a)yahoo.co.uk> >and Avon to a newer university that was probably >better academically but >less well respected (say the equivalent of Hull). I'd suggest the Australian "bushland" classification, but there are only two of those and Macquarie is pretty well respected. Well, more than Newcastle (if you ignore the reputation of the medical faculty there). "Bushland" can also equal mozzie infested, sadly. Might explain why Avon's a bit snappy. Regards Joanne _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] Clearing (was blues war)
by Tavia 14 Mar '01

14 Mar '01

Emma wrote: >Hence at my (slightly lower class perception) uni, the >first question on meeting an English person at St Andrews >uni (particularly if opposing them in debates/sports etc >and wanting to wind them up) was often 'I suppose you >came through clearing', the subtext being 'you were too >thick to get in down south.' There are southern analogues to this... At Imperial College London (one of the better places to study science/engineering in England) sufficiently many undergrads are failed Oxbridge-ites that the standard fresher put-down question is 'so what [Oxbridge] college did you apply to?'. >4. You might get to snog royalty You could do this in Cambridge in my time too... Not that I was ever much tempted. Tavia

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Re: [B7L] I See Dead People
by Alison Page 14 Mar '01

14 Mar '01

Kat said - >There's also "Morality Meat" by Raccoona Sheldon (aka James Tiptree Jnr) Oy! I'm the one who's supposed to bring her up at every opportunity. Good ref though (that's the one with the little stick-on piggy tails right?) Alison

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Fw: [B7L] the future of programming
by Una McCormack 14 Mar '01

14 Mar '01

Matthew read Alison's post about programming over my shoulder, and here's his thoughts: > [You may post this if you like] > > That isn't the future of programming. That's what the vast majority of the > industy is like today. > > And of course, one reason why software is so unreliable is that the systems > complexity is so large, even on a relatively trivial piece of software, that > it is _literally_ impossible (computationally impossible) to ensure that it > is error free. And then you get Visual Basic 'programmers' involved too :-) > > Most large corporate software development is exactly this form of code > archaeology (indeed, I spend much of my time picking over a 10-year-old > corpse with increasingly complex trowels). > > Now I'm off to watch 'Time Team'! > > Matthew

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Re: [B7L] Deliverance and unfinished endings
by Shane Little 14 Mar '01

14 Mar '01

Jacqui said: > Watching Series one recently - there are actually 5 unfinished stories Good basises for speculation in all cases, but I'm not so sure you can call them unfinished exactly. After all, for the Liberator crew, the story is finished in all cases. More like unresolved threads left hanging at the end of stories, for people to speculate on--including the crew... > And Meegat and friends - where there is a discussion among the Liberator group. The population of Cephalon (about 250-300 from what Meegat says) could not be transported on the Liberator - Avon et al spend about 12 hours roughly (the original time they were there, plus 8 hours for the Liberator's return visit) and received a fatal dose of radiation while Meegat and the others had lived in that environment all their lives - so possibly could not tolerate a low-radiation life. IIRC from the "discussion" last month, somebody pointed out that the crew don't realise that the radiaton dose is near-fatal until sometime later-- so that can't have been the reason the population weren't transported on the Liberator, cause if Meegat had said "no, we can't leave cause we need a high radiation environment," (or something else tipped them the wink, cause Meegat wasn't exactly Einstein in the technology-understanding department) it would have tipped them off to check the radiometers straight away. Shane "That Meegat bird was just too clingy." --Avon Who needs Cupid? Matchmaker.com is the place to meet somebody. FREE Two-week Trial Membership at http://www.matchmaker.com/home?rs=200015

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Re: [B7L] Recent slash discussions etc
by Marian de Haan 14 Mar '01

14 Mar '01

Dana wrote: >Horizon is by definition a genzine. The first story in Horizon 22, Josie McCall's "Immolation," has a lot of violence. Although there is no explicit description, Avon's sexual involvement with an OFC and with Soolin are plot points. I think that a story with a similar violence level and that is no more explicit than "Tarrant took Avon in his arms, happy to assuage their loneliness" has equal claims to be considered gen.< That depends how you define slash. I thought the word was used to describe all stories that depict some of the main characters as homosexual or lesbian, whether those stories contain explicit sex or not. (I may be wrong of course. In my innocence I also thought that a submission to someone asking for them can hardly be called unsolicited, but I seem to have got that wrong :-) ) Seriously, is there a standard definition of slash? Marian

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Re: use of image
by Steve Rogerson 14 Mar '01

14 Mar '01

Shane said: "The defense rests. Prosecution opens: yes, it is possible under the current libel laws to sue someone for an altered image or explicit artwork," Not so clear as you suggest. The extrapolation from an altered photograph to a piece of artwork both being covered by libel laws does not necessarily work and to my knowledge has never been put to the test in court. Let me explain. Your example was the use of an actress's head superimposed on the nude body of another woman. This could make it look like the actress in question had posed nude, something which she may not do and felt was damaging for her to be seen to have done. Hence, if the image was published, she would have a case in a libel court. However, if someone draws a picture of how they imagine someone to look nude, everyone knows that is really not them but an artist's impression (unless the drawing was so good it looked like a photograph), therefore the case for libel is not clear cut. I suspect from my knowledge of libel law that it would not stand up in court. As an aside, on a minor point, you said: "Legal rights aren't at issue here. Rights of common decency are." I should point out it was you who said Sally had "every right to ask for it to be removed". I was pointing out in response to this that she didn't have legal rights. -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson Redemption 03, 21-23 February 2003, Ashford, Kent The 25th Anniversary Blake's 7 Convention The 10th Anniversary Babylon 5 Convention http://www.smof.com/redemption

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