Blakes7 March 2001

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Re: Blues war [Re: [B7L] Kathryn's convention report/slash]
by Tavia 14 Mar '01

14 Mar '01

Fiona wrote: >Ah! My heroine! Together then-- Floreat Oxoniensis! Hmm. As I can rarely remember whether I'm supposed to support light or dark blue I suspect the other mob might win on points... Ob B7: Tricky. I rather liked Etrix's idea that Blake went to the Federation Oxbridge equivalent while Avon went to something 'redbrick' ... Tavia

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Re: [B7L] Re: Use of images
by Shane Little 14 Mar '01

14 Mar '01

Steve wrote: > Shane wrote: "Could be that Sally just didn't like the way the pictures made her > look. For > actors, their bodies are their instruments, their means of making their living. > Whether they're hired or not often depends on how they look in a picture. So if > she sees a picture which she thinks goes against her image, and might make it hard > > for her to get work, she'd have every right to ask for it to be removed." > > Unless, as Annie suggested, she had some contract re the actual photos with the > photographer, she would have no legal right at all. Legal rights aren't at issue here. Rights of common decency are. Would you jeopardise your chances of having an actor come back to your convention just because you want to argue legal rights with her? > rights to your own image law does exists in the US I believe and can come into > play here (someone who knows US law a bit better may be able to explain), but > there is no equivalent law in the UK yet, though the government is thinking about > this. As for the consequences of this lack... well, just ask Princess Diana. > Shane said: "didn't Lalla Ward successfully sue a men's > magazine a few years ago over faked-up nude photos of herself?" > > Don't know about this, but it is possible that she did this under libel laws. If > they altered her image to make it look like she would do something she would not > normally do and could be said to be damaging to her character, then she does have > a case under libel laws. The defense rests. Prosecution opens: yes, it is possible under the current libel laws to sue someone for an altered image or explicit artwork, if you can prove that it has caused you emotional distress and damage, potential or actual, to your career. What it comes down to is whether a jury can be convinced as to this distress and damage, and in this case, they clearly can. So in other words, if an actor did want to sue over a fan image which they felt was damaging to their career and/or their emotional well-being, then they jolly well could, regardless of people's hair-splitting about copyright ownership and rights of publicity, and the person being sued could incur considerable damages. Shane "They die quickly now..." -Dorian Who needs Cupid? Matchmaker.com is the place to meet somebody. FREE Two-week Trial Membership at http://www.matchmaker.com/home?rs=200015

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Re: Cyberpunk (Was: [B7L] Re: in calm discussion)
by Tavia 14 Mar '01

14 Mar '01

Me, then Mistral: >> What do people think the computers of the future will really be >> like? Do people agree that the Federation computer technology we see on >> screen is just a smokescreen concealing the Real Thing? How does one go >> about programming them? -- I've never believed the >> prodding-with-fancy-screwdrivers line. >Well, this is just a thought, but ... one of the early super-computers >(Cray II, perhaps?) was built in a circle, because the limiting speed >was how fast electricity could travel along its wires, and the circle >allowed the wires to be shorter. Suppose that Federation computers have >a similar problem of limiting speed that can be overcome to a certain >extent by building specialized modular circuits - maybe tiny >atomic-level computers in themselves - for different types of >processing. The bit with the fancy screwdrivers then becomes >reconfiguring the manner in which the modules interconnect. [Not playing the game, but... ] I'd always seen the fancy screwdrivers bit as evidence that the scriptwriters &c hadn't a clue how one might interact with the computers of the future. Surely with the system you describe, which pretty much exists at present methinks, one could have some form of control at a level we'd recognise as software? (Rather than screwdrivers?) I'm totally stuck with something I'm writing because, being totally computer illiterate myself, I simply can't envisage how someone who's presumably quite good with the things, such as Avon, might think about what we'd call programming. So, any further thoughts very welcome... Tavia

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Re: [B7L] A Sterile Federation
by Ashton7＠aol.com 14 Mar '01

14 Mar '01

In a message dated 3/13/01 11:50:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, stephend999(a)yahoo.co.uk writes: << FWIW I don't think there were any real pressures for the Federation to control fertility as the surplus population could always be shipped off to found another colony. >> I wonder if the suppresants wouldn't have cut down on the number of births? Either from people being too drugged to care about sex or else just the drugs themselves affecting reproduction. Annie

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Re: [B7L] Re: Blues war
by Tavia 14 Mar '01

14 Mar '01

Emma wrote: >I think he went to St Andrews through clearing.... >and thus learnt mistrust and grudges (as an outsider >in a strange community), but also how to appear >quite posh when he needed. Also the inferiority >complex because of the attitude to the clearing contingent. Actually I think Oxbridge would do just fine for all that... Tavia

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Re: Redemption '01 con report and pics
by kevs McCully 14 Mar '01

14 Mar '01

Joyce wrote: > > From: =?iso-8859-1?q?kevs=20McCully?=<kevs90000(a)yahoo.com.au> >>Anyway, my Redemption '01 con report and pics are now up at http://www.afterglow.fsnet.co.uk/redempt/thumbs > > Kevin, your report was entertaining, and the >pictures were nice. I especially liked the picture >you had of Michael Sheard and Gareth Thomas. >Visitors to Kevin's site should also have a look at >the rest of his photo gallery, which is quite >beautiful. Being one of those people whose thumb >always somehow ends up in the shot, I'm seriously >impressed. >Una Hi Una and Joyce, Thanks for your comments, it's good to know that you liked my site and the pics therein. Great publicity too...*grins* For my part, i'm starting to read some of the other folks reports and pics. It's good to see and read about the weekend from others viewpoints. Thank you to everyone who wrote a report and/or made photographs. Your efforts are appreciated. *s* Cheers, kevs ===== "Under an Aussie sky..." http://www.southernsky.fsnet.co.uk "afterglow", http://www.afterglow.fsnet.co.uk Kevin C McCully "The world is what you make it". _____________________________________________________________________________ http://store.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Store - The fastest, easiest way to open an online store.

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Re: [B7L] Redemption '01 con report and pics
by J MacQueen 14 Mar '01

14 Mar '01

>From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064(a)compuserve.com> >Joanne wrote: > >Alas, poor Una. Now we don't actually need Neil's photograph... >Oh yes we do. All right, after three: "Oh, no we don't!" Regards Joanne _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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My Redemption Con Report
by Kathryn Andersen 14 Mar '01

14 Mar '01

is up on my web page, in the "events" section. <http://www.katspace.com/events> (please note new URL!) (Judith, the full URL is <http://www.katspace.com/events/redem.html>) No photos as yet, just the text. Yes, David, I corrected the error about the song. Kathryn Andersen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "We've lost the crane! We've lost the crane! It's on it's way down to you!" (The Abyss) "Catch!" -- remark made at the Valhalla 24-hour SF marathon (9-2-91) -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen <kat(a)foobox.net> / \ | <http://www.katspace.com> \_.--.*/ | v | #include "standard/disclaimer.h" ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe

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Re: [B7L] Re: use of image (fwd)
by Judith Proctor 13 Mar '01

13 Mar '01

Julia asked me to post this - she's just reached a place on her travels where she can't connect to the net. > > In message <3AAC8267.A2DF66E0(a)mcr1.poptel.org.uk>, Steve Rogerson > <steve.rogerson(a)mcr1.poptel.org.uk> writes > >In the UK, the default is that the copyright of a photograph belongs > >with the photographer unless the photgrapher specifically signs away > >that copyright, which sometimes happens professionally if the > >photographer is working to a commission. > >The exception is if the photographer is an employee and the photographs > >are being taken as part of that employment, in which case the default > >is the employer owns the copyright. > > Judith's been selling some of my con photos of Gareth, mostly because we > hate his official "Mr Thomas, Actor" publicity photo and wanted to > provide something else for fans to ask him to sign. We asked him first, > and would not have done it if he'd objected, but this was a matter of > good manners - we were under no legal obligation to do so. The copyright > remains mine (and I will enforce it if I find other people selling > copies...). > > We also give him any profit that we make, but again, this is not for copyright > reasons, but because we like Gareth and appreciate his willingness to chat to > fans after plays and at conventions. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org ) Redemption '03 21-23 Feb 2003 http://www.smof.com/redemption/

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Re: Blues war
by Fiona Moore 13 Mar '01

13 Mar '01

----- Original Message ----- From: Tavia <tavia(a)btinternet.com> Fiona wrote: >Ah! My heroine! Together then-- Floreat Oxoniensis! <Hmm. As I can rarely remember whether I'm supposed to support light or dark blue I suspect the other mob might win on points...> Honesty is preventing me from telling you that it's the dark blue you should be supporting... well, you *should,* :), but if you insist on rooting for the Other Place... <Ob B7: Tricky. I rather liked Etrix's idea that Blake went to the Federation Oxbridge equivalent while Avon went to something 'redbrick' ...> Hm. Given Oxbridge's prioritisation of more abstract subjects over practical things like engineering, I always thought of Blake as having gone to one of the high-class redbricks (the equivalent, say of Imperial College London) and Avon to a newer university that was probably better academically but less well respected (say the equivalent of Hull). Actually, I wonder if they would even *have* an equivalent of Oxbridge in the Federation? All the learning we see seems to be very practically-oriented-- while Ro's case does have a parallell with Indian nobility going to Oxbridge universities for the social cachet of it, it could be a local sort of cachet. Fiona The Posthumous Memoirs of Secretary Rontane Available for public perusal at http://nyder.r67.net ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

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