Blakes7 March 2001

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Atomic war [Re: Brit-char-speak]
by Harriet Monkhouse 04 Mar '01

04 Mar '01

M wrote: >That could be a nod to our time, e.g.big atomic war, a new >calendar. Thereby little is left of our time in terms of memories I occasionally wonder if the apparent Britishness of the Federation indicates that the Atomic War wiped out the Americans. And for that matter the Russians. Though how the British survived being in the middle I have no idea. Harriere

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Humor Alert [was PWP (porn? what porn?)]
by Mac4781＠aol.com 04 Mar '01

04 Mar '01

Ellynne wrote: > Are there porn addicts willing to spend hours a day viewing the stuff? Museums everywhere better get out those "viewing nudes in this building may be hazardous to your health" warnings before the first lawsuits appear. ;-) Carol Mc

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Re: Out of the frying pan (was Re: [B7L] Horizon and
by Deborah Day 04 Mar '01

04 Mar '01

This email was delivered to you by The Free Internet, a Business Online Group company. http://www.thefreeinternet.net --------------------------------------------------------------- > >Deborah said: >> Far better than Godiva chocolates are the Leonidas ones you can get on the >> continent, and a few shops in England, notably Selfriges - worth >> the journey >> on their own. > >I wondered if anyone would mention these.... > >Many is the time I've wandered up to the Leonidas counter in Selfridges, >pointed at the large (1kg) box and said "just fill one of those with >pralines, please - any pralines will do." > >This usually comes in at under £20, and is well well worth it IMHO. > Beleive me, I've done it, and eaten them in 3 days which was as slow as I could go. They do bigger boxes as well ... There used to be a shop in Bluewater which gave you a free box half size of the first one which was even better but they've closed down. Debbie

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Re: [B7L] Re: Avon's stress
by Ellynne G. 04 Mar '01

04 Mar '01

On Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:08:32 +0000 Julia Jones <julia.lysator(a)jajones.demon.co.uk> writes: > In message <24854648.983492641594.JavaMail.imail@derby>, M > <nova_m1(a)excite.co.uk> writes > > Just to settle this one by reference to external factors - Tanith > Lee > has stated in an interview that she saw Avon as walking death wish. Did she say who's? Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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Re: Re [B7L] PWP (porn? what porn?)
by Ellynne G. 04 Mar '01

04 Mar '01

On Sun, 4 Mar 2001 02:51:30 +0100 (MET) littles(a)lycos.co.uk writes: > Shane wrote: > >Porn's a fun thing. So are cigarettes. So is chocolate. > >But all three are addictive, and are best used in > >small doses. > > <Actually there's a big difference, both cigarettes and chocolate > contain > substances that are physically addictive and thus are addictive in > themselves. Porn however is *only* addictive if you respond to it. > Unless > you respond to it, you are not going to become addicted to it.> > > That's only one form of addiction though. Psychological dependency > is also a clinically recognised form of addiction, and one which can > be just as damaging as the other kind (if not more, because it's > easier to deny that psychological addiction exists). > Right, anorexia nervosa is also 'all in the head,' but that doesn't stop it from being one of the most fatal disorders out there. Compulsive gambling is also an addictive behavior. "Clinical evidence suggests that pathological gamblers engage in destructive behaviors: They commit crimes, they run up large debts, they damage relationships with family and friends, and they kill themselves," to quote a national study. Can we say similar things about porn? A check of the data says that, going by over 150 published studies conducted over the past 25 years, it poses a serious health risk. Critics who have called it a grave risk to public health include the former Surgeon General of the United States (sorry, couldn't find data on the British equivilant). What are these risks? Regular consumers of porn show a marked tendency to be more callous towards women and to minimize rape as a criminal offense. It has been shown frequently to have a key role in the break down of inhibitions and restraint in the sexual abuse of juveniles. It negatively impacts marriage and family life. Consumers of porn are more likely to have distorted views of human sexuality and to view infidelity and multiple partners as acceptable. Addiction can occur causing to an increased need for stimulation to be sexually aroused, ironically damaging _real_ relationships which are no longer satisfying. Twenty years ago, the acting out of certain sexual behaviors by preadolescents was unheard of in cases where the child had not been sexually abused. Now, it is proof of a television in the home. The likely time and stages a teenager will go through before becoming sexually active in a relationship has also decreased. Are there porn addicts willing to spend hours a day viewing the stuff? Absolutely. Have they been willing to sacrifice family and marriage? Yes. Risk or lose jobs? Yes. Risk legal repurcussions including jail time? Yes. Take these same risks again despite the previous costs? Yes. Ob.B7. I doubt Cally would have approved. Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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Desserts
by Ellynne G. 04 Mar '01

04 Mar '01

Well, corn syrup works wonderfully for some candies but, in the eternal quest for the legendary 'something chocolate with the density of plutonium,' refined sugar (and eggs) is the way to go. Hmm, I've always _thought_ Cally was a healthy eater, but I wonder. A lot of thin types _inhale_ calories without it ever showing. Maybe her real reason for leaving Auron was a secret quest for Servalan and Jarrierre's Tope Secret Desert cookbook, the one Travis got lost his arm and eye in the attempt to steal (before Servalan had his memory modified so he blamed Blake [but his real, unconscious desire is the basket full of Godiva chocolates she promised him if he succedes. Then, he found out that Andromedan shape changing technology can do _anything_ with even a mediocre dessert recipe). What deep, dark plot twists does this really suggest about Avon's ice cream consumption? Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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Re: Out of the frying pan (was Re: [B7L] Horizon and
by Deborah Day 04 Mar '01

04 Mar '01

This email was delivered to you by The Free Internet, a Business Online Group company. http://www.thefreeinternet.net --------------------------------------------------------------- ->1. I think that Servalan's the one eating the batter-fried snowballs while >Jarriere eats Godiva chocolates--he knows that she'll have him killed if >he ever mentions it. Far better than Godiva chocolates are the Leonidas ones you can get on the continent, and a few shops in England, notably Selfriges - worth the journey on their own. Debbie

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Re: [B7L] Re: Brit-char-speak
by Tavia 04 Mar '01

04 Mar '01

Annie wrote (in response to Neil): >But I believe it was you who made the comment that fan writers >had no right to "Americanize" the characters because the show and >the characters were British .... To you, it is a state of mind that the >characters are British. To others of us, the characters are members >of the Federation. There is no "American" and "British" attitude to >attribute to the characters when those of us who feel that way write >the characters. Fan fiction is all about possibilities. If you want to >write your characters to be what you perceive as "British" in manner, >have at it. I'm not going to tell you not to, although I disagree that >the internal universe of B7 reflects a British society. As a (fairly) rabid 'Britisher', I had this discussion with one of the contributors to TTBA over her depiction of a Federation structure which I initially perceived as 'too American'. After some discussion, we came to the (hopefully mutually agreeable) conclusion that the future Federation might reasonably be thought of as mimicking some of the less pleasant aspects of US corporate or political life. Tavia

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Re [B7L] PWP (porn? what porn?)
by Neil Faulkner 04 Mar '01

04 Mar '01

This is a straight, honest question to which I would appreciate an equally honest answer. If anyone would prefer to reply off-Lyst then I will preserve their anonymity. I reserve the right not to believe anyone who I think might be misinformed or deliberately lying, but will still preserve anonymity if they wish, no matter who they are or what they say. I may cite replies in future argument, but will not 'out' anyone who answers off-Lyst. Julie has now referred several times to pornographic art of characters performing sexual acts. I have never seen such artwork. I have seen plenty of nudes rendered with varying degrees of artistic talent, but not once I have seen any involving two characters doing anything explicit. I can't even recall any nude art depicting two characters doing so much as look at each other. On the other hand, I can understand that some of the more extreme work might be very carefully circulated around a just as carefully chosen clique. Perhaps the likes of me have been deliberately sheltered from what may offend or may be misused to attack its afficionados. So my question is: Does such art exist? A straight yes or no will suffice, though any further comments on quantity, style, subject matter, availability etc would be appreciated. Neil

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Re: [B7L] Re: Brit-char-speak
by Ellynne G. 04 Mar '01

04 Mar '01

On Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:59:24 -0500 "Dana Shilling" <dshilling(a)worldnet.att.net> writes: > From the Harriere Garde: > Despite fanfic, I fear our crew had to get by on showers, poor > things. > There is a canonical reference to Avon thinking about something > "while I was in the the bath" Wasn't it while he was bathing? I only ask because I thought that phrase could cover both showering and taking a bath. However, I agree Liberator had bathing facilities and that Dorian, being an indiscriminate addict of any and all kinds of pleasure, would not have overlooked one as basic as hot water. Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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