Blakes7 March 2001

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Re: [B7L] Re: Brit-char-speak
by M 02 Mar '01

02 Mar '01

I'm up to date and the lyst seems a much more happy place - hippee. Anyway just remembered that bit in Rumours of Death where Tarrant says the structure could be pre-atomic. That could be a nod to our time, e.g.big atomic war, a new calendar. Thereby little is left of our time in terms of memories, if you're trying to survive a war, you dont have time for the little niceties. The human race stuggled to survive - lost their past, gained 'life', well kind of, suppressant filled life and gained Blake and Avon - seems fair to me. M. _______________________________________________________ Get 100% private, FREE email for life from Excite UK Visit http://inbox.excite.co.uk/

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Cadbury bars...
by Nathan Hook 02 Mar '01

02 Mar '01

so many and so cheap in comparative terms Annie. If you consider a British pound is roughly three NZ dollars and a US dollar is slightly over 2 NZ bucks...there's a whole world of chocolate goodies out there. hmmm, the exchange rate is one of the reasons people come to tour around NZ. I used to work in a canterbury of NZ shop, which sells or used to sell all the rugby jerseys esp for the national rugby team the All Blacks. UK tourists were our most frequent shoppers and best spenders becuase of the echange rate and you can't get the equivalent quality of clothing for the equivalent price in the UK - generally. In fact we send bundles over to the uk through our website and even get people ringing us up from there. The funniest was a scotsman who returned a year later to complain about a polo top which wasn't up to scratch. we replaced it for him. Currently heaps of clothing goes to ozzie customers via the internet because of the new GST laws over there...goods and services tax. the customer is often getting ripped off because the shops are plonking the tax on top of the price instead of including it. so it's cheaper in some instances to import it from NZ. Bizarre. Nathan. 'Dudu' said nothing, as/Her talants were of the more silent class.'Byron. ------------------------------------------------------------ Free, BeOS-friendly email accounts: http://BeMail.org/ love and pixels .:. http://dieselsweeties.com/

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Re: [B7L] Kathryn's convention report
by Ashton7＠aol.com 02 Mar '01

02 Mar '01

In a message dated 3/2/01 3:15:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, una(a)q-research.connectfree.co.uk writes: << > That's fascinating. Why does that lead to no rubbish bins? (I honestly don't > know the answer.) Because people put bombs in them. >> Oh. That would be bad. Thanks. Annie

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Re: [B7L] Re: Brit-char-speak
by Bizarro7＠aol.com 02 Mar '01

02 Mar '01

In a message dated 3/2/01 3:33:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, una(a)q-research.connectfree.co.uk writes: << Leaving aside the fact that I don't believe you can dissociate the production environment from the effect of the finished product, how about the premise? Ika pointed this out to me over the weekend, so thanks to her, but I can't think of another country whose public service broadcasting corporation would produce a programme about resistance against an arguably illegitimate goverment when the government of that self-same country is in the middle of a heightened version of such a struggle (late 70s were a bad time in Northern Ireland).<< Two words: X-Files. Week by week, American shows are *constantly* airing programs that have scripts involving evil government agencies and plots against the public in general and the well-being of the individual and their rights. Conspiracy shows are all the rage, and government conspiracy plots that accuse Washington of everything up to and including mass murder are frequent plot themes, even in non-conspiracy shows. So are plots showing US abuse against the indigenous minority and other ethnic groups within its borders. >> In the > society we see in B7, there doesn't seem to be any remembrance of World War > II or of "our" world at all.<< >Apart from the portrayal of a facist regime? Terry Nation puts this into pretty much all his scripts for 'Dr Who' too.< I'm sorry, but the Germans did not invent totalitarianism and fascism, nor did the Brits. The existence of a totalitarian government does not automatically imply a knowledge or awareness of WWII. Leah

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Re: Out of the frying pan (was Re: [B7L] Horizon and Redemption)
by Una McCormack 02 Mar '01

02 Mar '01

Carol <storm(a)catchnet.com.au> wrote: > >From: Bizarro7(a)aol.com > > >I would like to state herein my personal conviction that the very best > >confection ever produced in modern America has never equalled the very worst > >confection ever produced in the U.K. > > > Where does that leave Australian products ?? :-) Can't speak for Australian products, but NZ chocolate was just amazing - so much, so many different Cadburys bars... Una

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Re: [B7L] Re: Brit-char-speak
by Ashton7＠aol.com 02 Mar '01

02 Mar '01

In a message dated 3/1/01 12:23:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, julia.jones(a)jajones.demon.co.uk writes: << There are lots of things like this scattered through the cultures concerned (and a fair few of the obvious ones date from the different experiences of the World Wars). To me, the culture depicted in B7 is descended from the one on the east side of the pond... >> But what specific incidents in the Blakes 7 *universe* (not in the production values or the actor's accents) dictate or even show the audience that the people in B7 are all meant to be descended from a British society? You gave a great example of a difference in mindset between Americans and Brits, but how does that relate to B7 itself? We never saw the incident of your example happen on B7...and it doesn't even make sense that we would, because you were relating the mindset back to war-time rationing during World War II. In the society we see in B7, there doesn't seem to be any remembrance of World War II or of "our" world at all. In fact, if there *are* elements in B7 that are distinctly British than I would be interested in knowing *why*. Because, given that the culture supposedly exists far in the future and in what appears to be post-apocalyptic type domes, I would find it hard to believe that British culture of today would have survived. As I pointed out in an earlier post, if you could go back in time a few hundred years, the mindset and the culture would be different in very many ways. Annie

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Re: [B7L] Alternative Lyst Universes (was Horizon and Redemption)
by Deborah Day 02 Mar '01

02 Mar '01

This email was delivered to you by The Free Internet, a Business Online Group company. http://www.thefreeinternet.net --------------------------------------------------------------- >>Christ, give me a proper challenge. I mean, all you'd need would be a post >>analysing why Pertwee was gayer than McCoy. Surely not? My whole childhood reminscences ruined. Debbie

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Mark of Kane
by Judith Proctor 02 Mar '01

02 Mar '01

I've sold out of Mark of Kane and the Avon club has also sold out. I still have copies of Logic of Empire. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org ) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/

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RE: [B7L] Simple misunderstanding? (was in calm discussion)
by Louise Rutter 02 Mar '01

02 Mar '01

Annie wrote: >As far as misunderstanding... well, I think it's obvious you understood what >I wrote. It meant no more and no less than what I said. Was it >"misunderstood"? At this point, it is a deliberate misunderstanding on the >part of a few people because I have clarified what I meant several times now. I have to say that I took your first two posts to be critical of Jenkins. It wasn't clear whether the fans who were complaining had been directly involved in the study - if so, then Jenkins had clearly communicated poorly with those fans. I now gather from your further posts that the fans who were critical had _not_ been directly involved in the study at all, though I don't think you ever explicitly stated that. In which case Jenkins hasn't done anything wrong at all. Personally, I don't see what reason fans would have to be upset about other fans participating in a study of fandom if they wished to, despite Susan Beth's attempts to explain. I'm afraid I just don't understand the mind set. Louise

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credit cards
by Judith Proctor 02 Mar '01

02 Mar '01

I'm finding that people who've made credit card orders with me in the past are now sometimes saying 'please order this for me'. This would be fine <smile> except that I don't know the credit card number and hence cannot place the order. I never see credit card numbers if the order is placed via the web site. The card transaction is done via a secure site and part of that security is not letting me see the number. So, if you're ordering using plastic, please do it via the web site. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org ) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/

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