Blakes7 May 2001

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Handbags
by Leia Fee 23 May '01

23 May '01

Steve wrote... >>The assumption being that women cannot fight. Now wait just one minute..<huff> >Not an assumption I share, I hasten to add for Leia's benefit ! Oh. Well that's alright then <mollified> ;-) Leia

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Quotable B7
by Leia Fee 23 May '01

23 May '01

Carol wrote... >>My sister-in-law has AOL. Those of you on AOL are familiar with the little >>box that pops up saying 'you've been on line a long time, do you want to >>remain on line'. I loaded one of Avon's sound clips to my sister-in-law's >>computer and now when that box pops up she hears, "I'm glad to see you >>haven't been wasting your time on frivolities." She loves it. <snicker> >>I would love to get more sound clips. Is the website you're referring to >>available to the public? I haven't got all that many up there but you're welcome to ahve a browse. Also a fine oppurtunity to see me got up in silly outfits hitting people<grin> Er in light of the recent hassles here and the electronic vandalism some of the culprits have engaded in I will email you (and any one else who wants it) the URL offlist. Leia

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Re: [B7L] Re: A word of warning
by Tavia 23 May '01

23 May '01

Sarah wrote: >At the end of this post I will insert the academic resume of Fiona Moore I might be being 100% naive, but it is my belief, based on private correspondence, that *Fiona Moore* has nothing to do with the current spate of nastiness here, nor the post to the newsgroup in question. And no, I'm not Fiona, nor am I Jenny, nor have I ever met either of them, nor am I their associate. >I suspect that the "handbag" business may be some sort of >drag queen slang, picked up from her research on that topic. And on handbags, as far as I'm aware, the terminology started in a certain ex-Prime Minister of this country .... Tavia

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Episode review - Cygnus Alpha
by Kinkade, Carol A 23 May '01

23 May '01

<< Iain writes: << Jenna asks Avon about killing face to face. He says he doesn't know. I guess he shot the visa seller in the back then :-) >> It's been a while since I've seen "Cygnus Alpha" but wasn't Jenna's question whether he could kill in cold blood? Killing the visa dealer was (apparently, but no evidence) in self defense. It could have been face to face, but that's not the same as in cold blood. Jenna's question was actually asking if Avon could kill Blake in cold blood in order to take the Liberator. I don't believe he could. Not from any affection for Blake but simply because, at that point, Avon was not a killer. Season 4 Avon is another matter. I did love Jenna's response when Avon asked her if she could kill in cold blood. She answered, "there's one way to find out." Meaning, if he tried to kill Blake, she would stop him (any way she had to). Carol K (Avon Rules)

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Re: [B7L] Re: sadness
by Pherber＠aol.com 23 May '01

23 May '01

In a message dated 5/22/01 9:33:06 PM Mountain Daylight Time, j_macqueen(a)hotmail.com writes: > The time has come, the Walrus said, to ask Calle just how laissez-faire he's > feeling at the moment. I agree - Calle? Nina

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Episode review - Cygnus Alpha
by Iain Walker 23 May '01

23 May '01

Cygnus Alpha With Artix dosing the air with suppressants there must be an antidote for the crew? What about "health and safety in the workplace" regulations for the London's crew? Are they unionized? We get more portrayal of "every day" federation citizens when Artix is worried about his promotion prospects, and the captain says he can live it down because he is so young (compared to the captain for whom it will be the end of the road?). But our "good" captain makes a mistake when recording the log. He says five London crew died in the rebellion. They didn't. Teague and Wallace died on the Liberator, not during the takeover. Krell went insane on the liberator and Raiker died when the ships separated. This leaves one and maybe two unaccounted for (OR another five died during the rebellion and the captain thinks noone will noitce the other missing crew?). Later we find this is Artix first prison planet run. He is surprised that the planet looks so inhospitable, and that he cannot go down to the planet and stretch his legs. And now a real bone of contention: the HOT Liberator guns. One explanation is that you only get the hot reaction when the guns are in the storage compartment, that's why Blake can hand his gun to Jenna and she doesn't get burned (but Blake could have been a little more careful/thoughtful - he wasn 't to know this). In other words, the storage compartment detects that you have another gun in your hand - not the gun itself. But what if you had a gun in a holster, not touched by skin - would that be OK? The "lost religion" is too cliché for words. With language like "New bounty has come from the darkness." Sheesh! So Blake, Jenna and Avon are on a new and strange ship. The survival priorities should be air, water, food, heat & light, but they don't even discuss these things. In other episodes we know they don't take these things for granted, so what is going on here? Jenna names the ship "Liberator", too bad she isn't in charge of the whole operation. At least she would tell everyone what is going on more than Blake does, and she can certainly stand up to geeky old Avon. Even when they are stuck on the planet, Vila is still telling jokes - does he take nothing seriously? There have been many SFX criticisms of B7, but one of my favourite things is the "white outline" teleportation trick. BUT why does Blake say to bring him back in four minutes and not a shorter time. Oh, I know, it is just enough time for "Mr. Bumble" to get into trouble. When "the followers" see Blake they are told "A deserter, kill him". How do they know? Isn't it more likely he is a new prisoner? Blakes first LIE. He doesn't tell Jenna and Avon about being assulted. Grrr.. And when being interviewed by Vargas he says "No way am I ordering the ship to land ". Why not just tell the truth (as far as we know) it can't land on a planet? More hysterical dialog from the followers: "I am the servant of your god, Neil." So who is this Neil, and why is he god? :-). And why oh why is Gan kissed? Baffling. Another S.F. religion cliché - Medieval Chanting. Why not have a tele-evangelist? I know - no T.V. on this planet and they couldn't get the suits or whores. Why do they use sharps extra strong mints in the sacrament ceremony? Is this the religion that refreshes? More than a religion - its petty beurocracy too. there are chances for the faithful to rise in the priesthood - doing as you are told brings you into favour. Where did Vargas gun come from? I can't see the federation allowing armed prisoners to be shipped, can you? Jenna asks Avon about killing face to face. He says he doesn't know. I guess he shot the visa seller in the back then :-). Once again forgetting about food/air/water Jenna concentrates on fashion - but Avon is not impressed. Also - why are jewels so valuable? Apparently there is enough to buy a planet - equivalent to a whole banking system. This just makes no sense - you would need more minerals than are in a planet for starters. And I won't even mention the tennis shoes or the time differences between the liberators trip and the london. Rats - I just did. We have now gone three full episodes into the show and not one mention of football. Now, I can believe that religions have been wiped out, everyone lives in a dome, FTL space travel and BUT it is incredible that we are asked to believe that there is no organized sport (ask any facsist dictator about this way of getting people to let off steam) :-^. Surely Vila would have a replica shirt - probably Man City :-). - Iain On the substitutes bench we have Time Squad warming up!

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Re: You only sing when you're winning
by Steve Rogerson 23 May '01

23 May '01

Alison said: "Avon, Manchester United (dresses in red, highly effective, almost too popular)" Don't let Paul Darrow hear you say that - he's a Manchester City fan!!! -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson Redemption 03, 21-23 February 2003, Ashford, Kent Celebrating 25 years of Blake's 7 and 10 years of Babylon 5 http://www.smof.com/redemption

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Re: Gan the potato
by Harriet Monkhouse 23 May '01

23 May '01

I just had some really juicy garlic-stuffed olives for lunch, which put it in my mind that Avon may be a garlic-stuffed olive. Re my earlier speculation that Blake is a pomegranate, it is also possible that he is a strawberry. I was recently introduced by a five-year-old friend to a very nice stuffed tiger (I think the stuffing was kapok or equivalent, not garlic) called, for understandable reasons, Blake. But he was also known as the Jam Tiger because he looked as if he'd rubbed his nose in strawberry jam. She explained that he'd had to leave China for Africa in search of said jam. It gave me an interesting insight into Fearless Leader's personal habits. -- Harriet "Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased." - Daniel12.4

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Re: [B7L] sadness
by Jenny Kaye 23 May '01

23 May '01

Emily "I don't know what punctuation or a spell checker is" Darby wrote: > >I go away for a few days and come back to another god almighty > >cat fight. I always try to entertain. > >i despair of some fans on the internet lists in recent weeks, i have > >been happily clicking my way though a few hundred posts on both > >lists and i cannot believe that a group of people who love a 20 year > >old british sci fi show can get so stupid and nasty to one another It takes talent to fly a dead ship. > >i love sci fi and i love Blakes 7 and have been on lysator for years > >and on space city and now freedom city You are a SLASHER. since the beginning and > >yes there have been flame wars or whatever you prefer to call them > >and they usually come and go but in all my years on the internet i > >cannot remember anything quite as nasty as this A pro keeps it simple. > >my first reaction is to tell everyone to just get a life, the whole thing > >is just crazy, they would never be this horrible to people in real life Want to bet? > >I would not class myself as pro or anti slash, i like both , Then you are a SLASHER. > >I know this is very rambling but there are people who i am not sure > >if they are on or off lists now but people like Susan Beth, SLASHER PROGRAMMER Sarah Thompson, UNKNOWN Annie and Leah, SLASHER BASTARDS Judith Proctor, SLASHER Ellie, UNKNOWN Harriet, MAD SLASHER Kathryn Anderson, DRIVEN OUT BY MAD SLASHER BASTARDS Stever Rogerson, A MAD SLASHER BASTARD Neil A TREACHEROUS BACKSTABBING "STANDARD BY SIX" PILLOCK and lots more who have done so > >much for on and off line fandom WHAT THE HELL HAVE THOSE WORTHAM/ROSENTHAL BASTARDS DONE FOR FANDOM? THEY NEED TO BE EXTERMINATED. that some people would do well to > >remember EH? > >To al lthe genuine fans out there , thanks for being there, hang in > >there, the prats will soon get bored, to all the pain in the backside > >people, just get out, get off list and go find somewhere else to play I agree with that! Jenny _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Forwarded from Fiona Moore
by Tavia 23 May '01

23 May '01

Forwarded at Fiona's request ********************************** Dear Members of Lysator, It has recently come to my attention that I have been the victim of a cruel and unusual bit of internet fraud. I am still trying to work out exactly what happened, but in the meantime: -If you have received any e-mail from the following addresses: nydersdyner(a)yahoo.co.uk nyder(a)mailandnews.com from mid-April onwards purporting to be from myself, please disregard it. It is *not* from me and has nothing to do with me. A third party has obtained the password to these accounts, and is apparently using them to stir up trouble. I have e-mailed the abuse team of both service providers requesting that these addresses be closed down. -I am given to understand that somebody has been appearing on Lysator and claiming that she has been undertaking certain actions with my knowledge and consent. I would like to say at this point that she is in fact acting without my knowledge or consent, and that I have no personal connection to this individual whatsoever. Furthermore, she does not, whatever she may claim, represent the views of myself or any friend of mine she cares to name, in particular Alan Stevens. I would also hasten to add that Alan and I are in no way romantically linked. For obvious reasons, I am currently very reluctant to give out my e-mail address over the Lyst. I have asked Tavia to pass on any messages. I am sorry for any inconvenience and distress caused to you all through the actions of this person. Rest assured that they are nothing compared to the inconvenience and distress incurred by myself in learning of them. Regards, Fiona Moore

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Blakes7 May 2001