Blakes7 August 2001

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Christmas is coming
by jacquispeel＠netscape.net 28 Aug '01

28 Aug '01

At least as far as the first of the stationery catalogues and 'book your Christmas parties now' Assuming in the Federation there is a 'general spend your money and buy gifts for everyone' festival, any ideas? Jacqui __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

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Re: [B7L] Re: democracy
by Natasa Tucev 28 Aug '01

28 Aug '01

Mistral wrote: >ObB7: I'm not a bit certain that Blake was advocating anything >approaching equality or democracy. After all, 'not until free men can >think and speak' doesn't necessarily imply that all men should be free. I think it does, actually it simply denotes the basic actions which (in Blake's opinion) make one free - that one is allowed to think and speak. However, to show Blake's excitement and determination, Terry Nation has given him a phrase consisting of short, monosyllabic words, practically each of which is stressed ('free 'men can 'think and 'speak). It even may have been 'free man' in the original script, which Gareth replaced with plural unawares because the vowel is short there. This sentence is meant to be shouted out. The real meaning is, 'not until men (i.e., everybody) can think and speak freely' or 'not until men are free to think and speak', but that probably would have been less forceful, and also clumsy for the actor to declaim. What Blake said is a sort of elliptic, 'poetic' version of the same thing. N.

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Re: [B7L] Recommendations, anyone (was Re: Theme Songs)
by Sally Manton 28 Aug '01

28 Aug '01

Joanne wrote: <The android I can live with, in a manner of speaking; though the episode does push a button marked "Avon is a big meanie", with regard to one particular interaction with Vena. But that's just me, as previous discussions on this theme have shown.> <grin> I think many of us - love him as we do - have one of those buttons, don't we? <I am surprised, now that I think of it, that you didn't mention Gambit (and that I didn't think of it, for that matter). In my present state, I am deeply in sympathy with Jarriere...> Gambit is a rather good pick-me-up, certainly, and not just for My Favourite Gnome ... aren't Krantor and Toise a welcome sight after Justin and Og? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: Afterlife
by Steve Rogerson 28 Aug '01

28 Aug '01

Kathryn said: "any novel is actually too long to do as a standard-length movie" And if you cut the rubbish out of Afterlife it would be too short. At least Avon: ATA wasn't boring. -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson Redemption 03, 21-23 February 2003, Ashford, Kent Celebrating 25 years of Blake's 7 and 10 years of Babylon 5 http://www.smof.com/redemption

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Re: [B7L] Recommendations, anyone (was Re: Theme Songs)
by Sally Manton 28 Aug '01

28 Aug '01

Joanne: <Anyone want to recommend an episode that might be therapeutic for my poor, shaken mental faculties? Don't say Deathwatch, for my sight has been blasted as it is...> and Una: <How about Orbit? Anyway, Deathwatch is bloody brilliant.> <grin> maybe those of us who find Avon with sausages on his shoulders and Steven Pacey in a great-aunt's second-best wig rather distracting could try closing our eyes and just listening. Pretend it's a radio play and Avon's wearing his rather nice Volcano duds - would that work, Joanne? 'Nother suggestion to soothe frayed nerves, BTW ... City on the Edge of the World. Yes? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: democracy
by Helen Krummenacker 28 Aug '01

28 Aug '01

> Does anyone remember if > there is any mention of democratic elections within the federation itself? > - Iain > I don't think there is, but one thing that makes me think there is some pretense of elections is that Blake's first work was with the Freedom Party. Doesn't the word 'party' politically imply that there is room political participation among 'the people' and some form, however rigged, of election?

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Re: democracy
by Natasa Tucev 28 Aug '01

28 Aug '01

Helen wrote: >> You, for instance, probably feel that some environmental issues are >> not negotiable. >> >I can't think of any, right now. Of course, I think we're going to have >a tremendous man-made natural disaster do to our lack of environmental >concern, but that's our species' tough luck That's also other species' tough luck, unfortunately. We're not the only ones inhabiting this planet, remember? The problem is, the others can't vote. N.

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Re: [B7L] Re: Theme Songs
by Natasa Tucev 28 Aug '01

28 Aug '01

Joannne wrote: >>From: Natasa Tucev <tucev(a)tesla.rcub.bg.ac.yu> >>For Vila, [snip] 'Everybody Must Get Stoned' by Dylan. > >Also Subterranean whateveritis Blues. Subterranean Homesick Blues, the title song of the album. With the wonderful line, 'Don't follow leaders, watch the parking metres'. I think Avon would like it, too. N.

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Re: [B7L] Re: Theme Songs
by J MacQueen 28 Aug '01

28 Aug '01

>From: Natasa Tucev <tucev(a)tesla.rcub.bg.ac.yu> >For Vila, [snip] 'Everybody Must Get Stoned' by Dylan. Also Subterranean whateveritis Blues (I did try, last night, to repair the damage caused by Animals, but it's still affecting the memory area of the brain, sorry). He likes riddles and so forth... >Maybe 'King of the Road'. "I'm a man of means by no means..." Yes. I like. Regards Joanne (now imagining Vila annoying Avon past the end of his somewhat short tether with other songs in Roger Miller's repertoire -- VILA: "Oh, you can't rollerskate in a buffalo herd, but you can be happy if you've a mind to. Oh, you can't take a shower in a parakeet cage..." AVON: "Vila, I can be happy if you've a mind to stop making that dreadful racket. If I hear Dang Me once more, I will find a tree and hang you, is that understood? And forget about the bobbies on bicycles two by two, whatever they might be. Just go.") _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: FW: [B7L] Chronicles 66 now available
by Susan Beth 28 Aug '01

28 Aug '01

Andrew Williams wrote: > >Joanne wrote: > >>Page numbers might attract the connoisseur who really does appreciate >>craftsmanship, but still... > > >Did I mention they were *in order* as well?!? Well, I might be interested....but are they the elegant Roman version, or those dirt-common Arabic style numerals? Susan Beth (susanbeth33(a)mindspring.com)

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