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Re: [B7L] Re: Duel
by Natasa Tucev 15 Jun '01

15 Jun '01

Dana wrote: >Yeah, but whoever told him or didn't tell him, POV Blake killing >Travis (like eating oatmeal) is Just The Right Thing to Do. (snip) ...well, >WHENEVER you have the chance to kill an implacable enemy >who has been driven insane by a desire for vengeance on you... >kill him! OK, I know this must have been discussed many times over, but I wasn't on the Lyst then, so let this be my excuse. Blake's explanation of why he refrains from killing Travis, "You don't matter enough to kill", is not just an assessment of Travis's importance in the general scheme of things. It is also a statement implying Blake's own state of mind. As Blake's own great-great grandfather William surmised, we all start from the state of "innocence" when we perceive the world as basically good, positive and largely comprehensible. Sooner or later we "fall" from this original paradise into the state of experience which reveals to us a more complex, troublesome and disturbing understanding of the world and our own being. In Blake's case, I am not referring only to his realization about the evil nature of the Federation. Blake is not just forced to face the horrors of the world around him. He is also forced to understand and experience the dark recesses of his own mind. Blake is originally an idealist, someone whom we often see help people without any self-interest (think of Decimas, the crew of "Ortega", even the stuff in the Federation base in "Killer"). In some ideal circumstances, you could imagine that his predominant life philosophy would be what Boucher so cleverly ascribed to Blake clone: All life is linked, all life must have reverence. (Or, to quote W.B. again, Everything that lives is holy.) OTOH, circumstances have forced him to kill, destroy lives, commit a great deal of "senseless killing and destruction". Blake may have started his rebel career as a peaceful opponent to the Federation. We don't have enough data about the Freedom Party, but we know, for instance, that none of the people Travis massacred was carrying a gun (remember that Blake had to grapple with a guard to get a weapon he used to shot Travis). We also recall Bran Foster's (ironic) final words, "Whatever the consequences we must not resort to violence". These two bitter lessons could have persuaded Blake that he *has* to resort to violence. There's no other way to defeat the Federation. However, it is a decision which cannot leave one's soul intact. Another recognition which must be deeply disturbing for Blake is that not all of his motives for wanting to destroy the Federation are impeccable. Blake has suffered great personal wrongs which he cannot forgive or forget. Much as he tries to suppress his hatred, obsession, need for personal revenge, from his conscious attitude, he is still aware of these traits. Even if it's true, as Sally noticed, that Blake manages to stay emotionally detached from the violence he's committing, I think that all the while he has to fight certain darkness within, to grapple with his most negative urges. The world around and within Our Hero is complex and filled with horrors. It's not just that the time is out of joint, it is also his own self which is out of joint, and the cursed spite is that he can't ever set these right. The whole world is an unweeded garden, and so is one's own psyche. It's not just that killing one man will not bring down the Federation. It's also that killing one man will not change or annihilate Blake's comprehension of the world and his own soul. Travis may be an embodiment of everything that's dark and base in Blake's own nature, but Blake knows you cannot simply chop off a portion of the self. And kindly don't call Blake schmuck while I'm around. N.

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Re: [B7L] Power (was: Quote appeal)
by Sally Manton 15 Jun '01

15 Jun '01

Una wrote: <I think we did actually get to 10.> I think we did, and I'm proud of us all. Now to get up the energy to sit down and *watch* it to savour them all properly ... and Jacqui: <Is 'Assassin' more sexist than 'Power' - there is a comment made by Neebrox & Servalan's 'a credit to our gender/sex/whatever'?> and Tarrant's 'just like a woman' crack as well ... there's a trace of ickiness there but nah. Maybe if, once she'd got him all tied up, Piri/Cancerous had forced some sort of sexual advance on Avon (for some reason, the idea of her kissing him at this point is more giggle-worthy than anything else) you'd have an argument, but somehow it just wouldn't be the same now, would it? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: Weakest link
by tavia＠btinternet.com 15 Jun '01

15 Jun '01

Thanks, Marian, that was very amusing. The ending is perfect. Tavia

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Weakest Link
by Judith Proctor 15 Jun '01

15 Jun '01

We've just uploaded 'A Dismal Performance', Marian de Haan's B7 story based on 'The Weakest Link. I loved this one - really funny. We've also uploaded the last of Marian's episode reviews, so we now have the full set of all 52 episodes. (Some episodes are also reviewed by other people) They can be found on the 'episodes' section of the Hermit site and also under 'what's new'.. Marian's reviews are wonderful at pointing out all the plot holes <evil grin>. Other new stuff on the site includes broadast times and dates for Blake's 7 in New Zeeland (it begins in a week's time - thanks to Faye for telling us about this) as well as the usual minor updates being done all over the site. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org ) Redemption '03 21-23 Feb 2003 http://www.smof.com/redemption/

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Linda Knights
by Judith Proctor 15 Jun '01

15 Jun '01

Linda Knights came out of hospital about a week ago after spending six weeks there. Her injuries were a lot worse than we originally thought. She's obviously in no condition to handle any zine orders in the immediate future, but we'll be talking to her about the best way to deal with things over the next few weeks. There's a backlog of orders that she will deal with when she's able to (and we'll be helping her as much as we can), but all new orders via the Knightwriter website will be handled by myself and Richard. About 60% of zines that were available before Linda's accident are now available once more and the number is going up all the time. We've also added one or two completely new editors to the list. (We're not listing ones printed by Linda herself until she's fit enough to be able to mail them.) Linda has asked us to thank everyone who sent Get Well cards. Judith PS. Please don't try and contact Linda (unless it's to send her a card). She's exhausted, still in pain and not up to dealing with enquiries yet. PPS. Feel free to post this on any other relevent lists. -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org ) Redemption '03 21-23 Feb 2003 http://www.smof.com/redemption/

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Re: [B7L] Quote appeal
by J MacQueen 15 Jun '01

15 Jun '01

>From: Ross Mallett <hawkeye(a)bluedog.apana.org.au> >Vila: What any skilled technician does with solid state circuitry, >you kick the living quartz out of it. (Blake's 7: Traitor [D3]) Sounds like my brother's job description. Not that he looks as pretty when unconscious as Julia has reminded us a certain person does... Regards Joanne (and he's more Tarrant's height...) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Lost Causes
by Sally Manton 15 Jun '01

15 Jun '01

Una wrote: <At heart, Stephen, I am a woman of principle. Not even I could extoll the virtues of 'Power'. Plus, I do have some sense of self-preservation.> Oh come on, I'm sure we could between us all come up with Ten Good Things About Power surely ... Couldn't we? I'll start the ball rolling. Umm. Errr. Tarrant and Vila and the bit about rats. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Calling Jem Dixon
by Kathryn Andersen 15 Jun '01

15 Jun '01

Does anyone have Jem Dixon's current email? I need to get in contact with her urgently. -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen <kat(a)foobox.net> / \ | <http://www.katspace.com> \_.--.*/ | v | #include "standard/disclaimer.h" ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe

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Re: [B7L] Trust
by Ellynne G. 14 Jun '01

14 Jun '01

> Jacqui wrote... > >>It might interesting to see which characters in B7 refere to trust > - > Blake (in 'that' quote) >>Neebrox and who else? > Although Cally did say a man who trusts can never be wrong, only mistaken, that doesn't mean that she might not have tried to avoid making certain big mistakes. Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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Re [B7L] Short-short fiction request
by Neil Faulkner 14 Jun '01

14 Jun '01

The zine provisionally called Eric (remember that?) is now in the final stages of editing, but I have two annoyingly large wodges of white space that need filling. If anyone's got a really short (500 words max) piece of fiction going spare, I'd be very grateful. The only proviso is that it is not adult (het or /). Wing it my way and you get a free copy of Eric in grateful recompense, unless you happen to be Firerose, Ika, Morrigan, Julia Stamford, Tom Forsyth, Andrew Williams, Marian de Haan or Ellynne G, since you'll be getting one anyway. Neil

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