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Re: [B7L] Fwd: Frame capture votes
by Jacqueline Thijsen 20 Nov '01

20 Nov '01

At 19:38 19-11-2001, Marian de Haan wrote: >Sally wrote: > >And looking at the list, I do believe that Series One is desperately >under-represented.< > >Absolutely, and IMO it is also undervalued. All those years ago I was >attracted to the series because the first two episodes were so different >from what I was used to. Watching The Way Back I was waiting for the happy >ending right up to the very last minute, and it was something of a shock >when things didn't come right for Blake at the last moment. And then in >Spacefall things went once more against expectation with Blake's attempt to >take over the London failing so dismally. It was so new and refreshing at >the time. Yeah, me too. I vote for spacefall, because it has the first images of Avon. And please, pretty please, Lisa, get pictures of him still sitting in that chair and looking wonderfully bored and disgusted with the whole affair. <sigh> He still looked so young and fresh back then. Jacqueline --- Hygiene is important to me, so I always have my brain washed at least once a week.

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Re: [B7L] Fwd: Frame capture votes
by Marian de Haan 20 Nov '01

20 Nov '01

Sally wrote: >And looking at the list, I do believe that Series One is desperately under-represented.< Absolutely, and IMO it is also undervalued. All those years ago I was attracted to the series because the first two episodes were so different from what I was used to. Watching The Way Back I was waiting for the happy ending right up to the very last minute, and it was something of a shock when things didn't come right for Blake at the last moment. And then in Spacefall things went once more against expectation with Blake's attempt to take over the London failing so dismally. It was so new and refreshing at the time. >Seeing as Una and I both have our Hopeless Causes up and selected, thank you all :-) anyone want to join in a tad of ballot-stuffing? Personally, I favour Spacefall or Breakdown (or maybe Bounty?)< I'll put in a vote for Spacefall, but I'll also waste one on my own Hopeless Cause, Volcano. It's quite a pictoresque episode, with some beautiful suffering :-) Marian

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Frame capture votes
by Lisa Williams 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

I'm uploading this week's frame capture update at the moment. It's going to be reruns again this time, I'm afraid, due to Real Life having been extremely hectic lately. However, I am now off work through the end of the year, which means, among other things, that I should have a lot more time to do frame captures. I'm hoping to put together a bonus edition for the next update, which should coincide nicely with the 20th anniversary of the show's finale. What all this is leading up to: I've got two more episodes ("Voice From The Past" and "Animals") left to go from our last vote, and I would like to get the next set lined up so that I'll be ready to do some additional ones if possible. So, it's voting time again! Most of you know the drill. This time, I've got five slots to fill; these five will complete the 13 episodes which will appear on the next CD-ROM volume. Each of you may cast five votes, and you may portion them out however you wish -- you can give one vote each to five different episodes, or allot multiple votes to episodes you especially wish to promote. Just remember that your total is five, and send whole votes only, please; no fractions. Send your selections to me *off list* at <lisa(a)eroicafans.org>. I will be accepting votes for the next two weeks. For reference, here is the list of episodes which have already been done, or are currently scheduled to be (i.e., *don't* vote for these): 01 The Way Back 06 Seek-Locate-Destroy 14 Redemption 15 Shadow 16 Weapon 17 Horizon 18 Pressure Point 20 Killer 23 Voice From The Past 24 Gambit 26 Star One 27 Aftermath 34 Rumours of Death 35 Sarcophagus 38 Death-Watch 39 Terminal 44 Animals 45 Headhunter 49 Gold 51 Warlord 52 Blake - Lisa -- Lisa Williams: lisa(a)eroicafans.org or lcw(a)dallas.net Lisa's Video Frame Capture Library: http://framecaplib.com/ From Eroica With Love: http://eroicafans.org/

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*Happy* Anniversary?
by Sally Manton 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

Wandering through Judith's website, I noticed a little fact that I think we should all commemorate. In just over 5 weeks, it will be exactly twenty years since the BBC gave us all *that* little Christmas present ... on 21 December, it will be the anniversary of the most vividily remembered, endlessly argued over and utterly memorable episode of Blake's 7: 'Blake'. Shouldn't we do something in memory? Hold a wake? Work out once and for all <veg> who made it through the shooting party? Have a 'most creative or unlikely PGP' competition? Or just weep into our virtual glasses in salute? Throwing open the floor for ideas ... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Orac's age
by jacquispeel＠netscape.net 18 Nov '01

18 Nov '01

How old would Orac be, and would it regard Ensor junior as a 'brother'? Servalan tells Travis that there had been rumours about Orac for 'years' - was this Ensor junior getting spare parts, or was it Orac leaving a trail as it investigated things? Jacqui -- __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

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Gareth in London on Monday
by Judith Proctor 18 Nov '01

18 Nov '01

This just in from Horizon. If you're in or around London on Monday, it could be worth a visit. ('Dear Brutus' was a superb play) NEW: GARETH THOMAS, play reading in London, this Monday 19th November - lunchtime. Gareth will be making a flying visit to London on Monday 19th November doing a play reading Upstairs at The Gatehouse (Pub/Theatre), Highgate (Junction of Hampstead Lane & North Road), North London.) The performance begins at 12.30pm - the play is 'The Last Moons' by Furial Bordon (or some similar spelling!!), adapted by William Weaver. Director is David Newman (who was Assistant Director at Nottingham last year when Gareth starred in 'Dear Brutus' and 'Midsummer Night's Dream'. The play is being put on as part of a 2 week programme by John Caird/the Trevor Nunn group, to promote an awareness of new writers and directors. 'The Last Moons' is on at 12.30pm, tickets are £5 (£3 conc). Gareth says Act 2 is him doing a monologue. The play takes a wry, intimate and funny look at the subject of Old Age! -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org ) Redemption '03 21-23 Feb 2003 http://www.smof.com/redemption/

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Eclecticon pix
by Steve Rogerson 17 Nov '01

17 Nov '01

Some picture from Eclecticon are now up on my site (hit the link below my name and then hit convention pictures on the menu) The B7 Wobblevision pictures will be up as soon as we agree the captions. -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson Redemption 03, 21-23 February 2003, Ashford, Kent Celebrating 25 years of Blake's 7 and 10 years of Babylon 5 http://www.smof.com/redemption

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Re: Why wasn't Sleer recognised? - Theme of Unknowingness.
by seven＠gaudaprime.com 17 Nov '01

17 Nov '01

Nicola wrote > I'm new to this list, so this has probably been covered before. If > so, please humour me. > I think one of the worst mistakes in B7 was to bring back Servalan in > the guise of Sleer (much as I enjoy Jacqueline Pearce's acting). (snipped portraits, viscasts, long hair) > And even if it had become the fashion to resemble > her (like the Diana craze years ago), it would be stupid to continue > to do so after she had fallen so far from favour that all her > colleagues were ruthlessly purged. David Here is a theory / hypothesis you might like to consider. There is a divide between those at the top and the group just below them. Reeve brings it out. from Sand Reeve: We never actually met but I was at one of those official receptions for good and faithful servants that you occasionally graced with your presence. Shrinker mentions a similar divide. from Rumours of Death Shrinker: The elite from Central didn't mix much with members of the interrogation division. When she fell from favour, those that did know her were purged. Tarrant: If the new boys don't spot you first. Servalan: I am dead, and anyone who was ever directly involved with me has been purged. Many of those who knew her by sight were included in the purges. She did some of the purging herself. from Traitor Leitz: After all, how many people have you killed to conceal your secret? Servalan: You mean now? Twenty-six. So far. There is also a convincing story explaining her fate, which story would go a long way to disarming potential embarassments. Leitz: Servalan? Is Your Excellency certain? Proctor: Of course. I knew her well; killed in the rear-guard action at Gedden. Leitz: I knew she was reported dead, sir. I never heard any details. Servalan would know how to spread such a cover-story because she has done it before. from Hostage Travis: Are you and I still enemies? Servalan: Officially, yes. Unofficially, you lead me to Blake whenever you can. If you help me get him I will see you officially listed as dead. There is no one as free as a dead man. Sleer, after this campaign, would not be recognised by anyone in the Upper Echelon. It would be in the group immediately below that she would be recognised, and so she was. In Warlord, Zukan would know of her twinness in his own eyes. He calls her simply Commissioner. The name Sleer is not mentioned but studiously avoided. Servalan's name is conspicuous by its absence. The motiff is rather well done in the episode, what with the confusion when Soolin claims to be another woman (ie. Zeeona). At the slave auction, Avon mentions Sleer's original identity but Verlis, the one in charge of the auction, doesn't even flinch at the name. from Assassin Avon: Servalan. Servalan: I think, if you don't mind, I would prefer my slave to address me as "mistress". When they teleport away from the auction, however, then she drops a glass. She already knew Servalan was Sleer. The blind Ardus is on thin ice when he encounters the Commissioner. from Animals Ardus: I am sorry. Why should you have known of it? Only six War Intelligence Officers and Servalan, our president, knew of it, if ever she was told. Servalan: Servalan? why do you mention Servalan? Ardus: No reason particularly. Servalan: No? Ardus: Simply she came into my mind. Servalan: Why did she come into your mind? Ardus: I, I cannot say, Commissioner. Later on he regrets saying this and compounds the problem. Academician Gerren recognises her, but whether Avon told him beforehand or not is not known. from Games Gerren: Belkov has milked this planet for twelve good years. Now he knows the game is up, he wants to use the crystals to buy survival. Avon: So he will do a deal. Tarrant: With Servalan? Gerren: He will certainly try. A member of the staff of one of the earlier presidents recognised her. from Gold Servalan: Load the gold and watch him. Keiller: I don't suppose I will get paid now, will I, Servalan? Egrorian recognised her. from Orbit Servalan: When I regain power, you will be well rewarded. I shall appoint you my Chief Minister for Science. Egrorian: Servalan, my steel queen, my empress, the only reward I crave is a place in your affections. Reeve recognised her. from Sand Servalan: Reeve, you apparently think this is a new, exciting experience for me. It isn't. I have confronted several maniacs with guns. Reeve: Oh, I am sure you have, Madam President. I am right aren't I, Servalan? Leitz recognised her. from Traitor Leitz: After all, somebody has to take Practor's place. You could use your influence, I am sure. And, of course, you would know that your secret would be safe with me, Servalan. Servalan: I am sure it would but I don't submit to blackmail. That leaves Rescue, Power, StarDrive, HeadHunter and Blake. Servalan was not present in these episodes (at least, the actress was not). > Anyone have any explanations? Apart from poor script-writing? David Blake doesn't know who he is anymore ("I can't really tell anymore"). Avon doesn't know who he is ("Of all things ... fool" - Rumours; "Psychopaths are as welcome as farmers were." - Blake). The victims of the Pylene Programme don't know who they are. The Federation doesn't know who it is (because Servalan doesn't know who she is). The Sleer theme is a key theme in the fourth series. Nicola > And why didn't Avon blow her cover? David As another poster said, he tried. Or perhaps he wants a definite enemy. DC

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RE: [B7L] Survivors
by jacquispeel＠netscape.net 17 Nov '01

17 Nov '01

"Ellynne G." <rilliara(a)juno.com> wrote: >Let's see, silly ideas. > >Silly Idea #1 > >Slowly, as if in a dream, Avon looked up from Blake's blank, staring >eyes. He saw his . . . friends. Yes, he could admit that, now it was >too late. He saw his friends, lying dead around him. He saw the >Federation guards, their weapons pointed at him in a moment that seemed >to stretch on forever. > >So, it ended as he had always known it would from the very begining. He >smiled, raising his gun, and - > >"Barkley, turn off the holo-deck and get over to engineering." > >Silly Idea #2 > >Same as above only it's the Red Dwarf "Back to Reality" episode. They >wake up and find they've spent the last four years making a hash of the >most popular virtual reality computer game around. Avon discovers he's >really Dwayne Dibbly, etc. Finally, before they all get suicidal, Orac >and Slave get through to them. Pylene-50 is really a despair drug and >they're back in the first episode where it showed up. The rest of S4 was >an hallucination meant to make them suicidal. > >Silly Idea #3 > >All this time, they really were minor characters on the edge of a bigger >story. Just when all seems lost, Gollum falls into the pit of doom with >the one ring. Gandalf comes flying in to pick up Frodo and Sam and grabs >the other characters who happened to be lying around for the heck of it >(the Federation soldiers, being low level Sauron minions, turn tail and >run when the ring is destroyed). Avon is revealed as Boromir and >Faramir's geeky brother, Avomir (who was left out of the tales for a good >reason). Vila's a Hobbit. Orac's a palantir. Cally, despite having >evidently died in the pits of Moira (Terminal in some lower tongue or >other), shows up alive and well. Blake has difficulty adjusting to this >view of reality. > >Silly Idea #4 > >Avon ducked. The guards shot each other. > >Ellynne Silly idea no 5 - there is another, totally unrelated rebel by the name of Blake - #not# a clone, who set it all up. Jacqui -- __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

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RE: [B7L] Re: *Happy* Anniversary?
by jacquispeel＠netscape.net 17 Nov '01

17 Nov '01

Lisa Williams <lisa(a)eroicafans.org> wrote: >Kathryn Andersen wrote: > >>Oh, you mean "Afterlife" has already won the "most unlikely PGP" >>competition? > >Well, you must admit it'll take some beating. (Preferably with a heavy, >spiked instrument, but I digress.) > > - Lisa > A 'morning star' might be the most appropriate (Is this the book with the pseudo-Orac - from what I remember of the story it was 'slightly dire') Jacqui -- __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

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