Blakes7 August 2001

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Re: [B7L] Jarriere sighting
by Sally Manton 25 Aug '01

25 Aug '01

Stephen wrote: <Terminal: A prelude Funereal Music (Wagner's death march from the Gottedamerung or the Space Command theme from B7)> <much and heartfelt applause> _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [B7L] Jarriere sighting
by Sally Manton 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Harriet wrote: <Though "caddie" is now used almost entirely in a golfing context, I believe it was originally a more general term for a manservant. Perhaps Jarriere is an Immortal, who has chosen to spend the centuries working as caddie, in it various senses, for glamorous but untrustworthy females?> This is a lovely idea (my personal fanon says Jarriere outlived the lot of them, including the Federation itself on my less sensible days, and this is a pretty good excuse :-)) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [B7L] Democracy (was: Episode review: Time Squad)
by Marian de Haan 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Carol wrote: >There's this exchange in the Children of Auron: <qoute snipped> >They seem quite comfortable with the simple principles of democracy. The principle of democracy only entered Liberator after Blake left. (And only up to a point, as Tarrant learned in Terminal) :-) And even then it usually wasn't applied where Vila was concerned. Marian

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Re: [B7L] Josette Simon
by Sally Manton 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Pat quotes Josette Simon: <I am a Shakespearean actress. I have an OBE. It's so annoying when Blake's Seven is the only thing people want to talk about."> Goodness, she does sound rather self-important ... I'm not knocking her skills, her place in the current Shakespearean actors, or (god forbid) her OBE, but whether she likes it or not, IMO B7 is probably the only thing she's ever done that *will* be remembered ... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Josette Simon
by Roberts, Patricia ＠ CSE 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

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Re: [B7L] Re: Josette Simon
by Mac4781＠aol.com 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Steve wrote: > If anyone is interested, Paula and I are going on Tuesday 4 September > if you want to join us and maybe go for a drink afterwards. The box > office is 0207 836 6111 and it's on at the New Ambassadors Theatre in > the West End. One can't know for sure ahead of time, but tickets for Vagina Monologues have been consistently on the list of available shows at the Half Price Ticket Booth in Leicester Square. Carol

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Re: [B7L] Josette Simon
by Steve Kilbane 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Minnie wrote: > Ouch ouch ouch. Its not usually a good idea to bag ones fans!!!!! > > How uppity and snobby But entirely understandable. A combination of three things, I imagine: the overwhelming impact television - any television - can have on public impressions, compared to theatre; the extra tenacity of genre fandoms; and the common frustration of any interviewee of being asked the same damn questions all the time. steve

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Re: [B7L] Re: names
by Natasa Tucev 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Ellynne wrote: > >OK, you know I like to type this up from time to time. And I like to read it from time to time. Thanks for posting it again, Ellynne - especially the bit about Roj and Kerr. > >Kerr - Can mean dark or speak (related to the ger root in Roger, which >means noble spear, so Roj and Kerr have first names that make up a single >name - and the elements they get suit them. Blake is the 'noble' >idealist [which is why Avon claims to despise him] and Avon claims to >have a personality any spear would be proud to own up to. It also seems >to suggest Avon as Blake's scapegoat or proxy, literally embodying a >darker half that Blake needs but must also deny as part of himself). Scapegoat or proxy - would that be the same thing as Tanist? My theory is that Travis is really Blake's dark self. Last evening I read a story in which Blake sees a shadow in the 'next world' and at first he thinks it's Avon, but then it turns out to be Travis. It's not the first time I encounter such a twist in fanfic: Blake confusing Avon for Travis in a moment of frenzy, Avon with an artificial eye, etc. Blake seems to have two shadows, although there doesn't seem to be much similarity between Avon and Travis. Could you cast some mythological light in there? (Or anyone else who has a suggestion?) N.

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Re: Josette Simon
by Steve Rogerson 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Pat quoted the Daily Telegraph: "JERRY HALL'S co-star [in The Vagina Monologues], Josette Simon, is in less jocular form. When I point out that the programme notes have omitted her best known television role - in the 1980s sci-fi series Blake's Seven - she replies: "You're not going to ask me about that, are you? I am a Shakespearean actress. I have an OBE. It's so annoying when Blake's Seven is the only thing people want to talk about." Must remember to wear a B7 T-shirt when I go to see it. If anyone is interested, Paula and I are going on Tuesday 4 September if you want to join us and maybe go for a drink afterwards. The box office is 0207 836 6111 and it's on at the New Ambassadors Theatre in the West End. -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson Redemption 03, 21-23 February 2003, Ashford, Kent Celebrating 25 years of Blake's 7 and 10 years of Babylon 5 http://www.smof.com/redemption

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Episode review: Time Squad
by Sally Manton 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

After I wrote <Blake wanted freedom and power in the hands on the *honest man*, remember? Unfortunately, precious few of them ever set foot on Zen's flight deck ...> Ian W answered: <LOL! How true! Do you think this theme - of Blake surrounding himself with dishonest people - is carried all the way into the final episode?> Well, he probably reasoned that it worked rather well before ... <BUT not only does Blake not discuss what the "team" will do next, it is so far from what they were expecting that they appear surprised. This is the odd thing for me - I can see that some one needs to take charge but this doesn't mean that every decision has to be a surprise for the rest of them.> They aren't - the amount that Blake actually keeps to himself is rather over-estimated IMO. Oh, he does it sometimes, Time Squad and Pressure Point probably being the worst examples, but there is evidence that it's actually uncommon for him *not* to discuss and explain (see Vila's plaintive words in Voice). And when you think about it, they *shouldn't* have been that surprised at the start of Pressure Point - they *know* (from Weapon) that he was thinking about attacking Control on Earth, they also know he's not the galaxy's most patient man ... and yet, when he talked to them about swanning off to Earth to look at the defences, they didn't hear warning bells ..? (Maybe Avon did, but Avon didn't see fit to tell the rest either :-)) <As for waht democracy actually means, I think the crew do know based on their knowledge of non-federation worlds where politicians need to get elected (e.g., that bloke in Bounty - er... Sarkoff).> Yes and no. Yes, they know about it in a theoretical way - as in it happens on planets they've never (up till now) been to. Possibly the same way I understand quantum theory - I know it exists, I've read how it works, but that's about it ... All of them have been moulded by a society where might definitely is right, and to an extent the assumption that the strong rule *is* bone-deep in all of them, I think, both Blake's crew and later. Blake *consciously* wants the hoi polloi -the weaker, the oppressed etc - to have the rights of freedom and self-determination, but when under pressure (and when aren't they?) he slides back towards what is more natural for the time and place ... I doubt that the Federation gave lip service even to the extent of Soviet-style one-candidate elections, myself. <Lets see if the discussions of what actions to take and Blakes planning efforts improve in future episodes :-^. After all, this was their first real effort.> <grin> one has to say, given the stated objective of the raid, that it was a failure (but given how new they are at it, and how crushingly out-numbered-and-equipped-and-everything-elsed, some failures are to be expected). OTOH, remembering what Servalan says: "the fact that he is still alive gives them hope". Hope being a gift even more priceless in this barren landscape, perhaps every time he does survive could be counted as a victory ... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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