Blakes7 January 2002

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Re: Female Characters - Place(s) of Servalan's Tutelage.
by seven＠gaudaprime.com 10 Jan '02

10 Jan '02

David wrote >> (snipped Kasabi's earthly fertility v. Servalan's earthly sterility) Harriet > So you're assuming that the tutelage was on Earth rather than on a space station or other planet? David Yes but not necessarily the entire tutelage - since the story Trooper's Love by the moderator of this list allows and assumes Kasabi taught cadets away from Earth - and not in the first instance. It derives from an earlier assumption. The argument why I am assuming part or all of it was on Earth runs thus: 1. Servalan is 33-34 in Pressure Point (from EP the Argentine's age at her death, and from Weapon's 34). 2. Kasabi regretted "not trying to help Servalan" in the beginning (ie. either at the time they met eachother, or at the start of the period of Servalan's tutelage. It can be either way, I suppose). 3. Servalan came to a difficult decision when she was 18 or 19 shortly after Don Keller and before power became her lover (from Sand). 4. While under Kasabi, Servalan informed on Kasabi (from PPt). 5. Veron is 16 (best guess). 6. Veron was born or conceived or both on Earth (an assumption and the story's raison d'etre as admitted upthread). These taken together indicate why I am assuming part or all of Servalan's tutelage was on Earth. If the reader grants number six above - although, on the one hand it requires some energy and fiddling to arrange, on the other hand it gives various benefits in return, eg. Kasabi can have met Hal Mellanby, Bran Foster, Roj Blake, Del Grant's sister, Dev Tarrant. And if I make Servalan a cadet before Don Keller, say, aged 16-17, she will have been the same age as Veron when they met for the first time in Pressure Point. But if I make Servalan a cadet after Don Keller, say, five years before Egrorian leaves Bellhangria University, at age 20, then she can very well be spoilt, idle, vicious, greedy, and sick. Servalan is not fertile, I say. Kasabi is fertile and on Earth at the beginning of Veron's existence (either when she became pregnant or when she delivered or both). To make things equal, to provide a contrast between the two, Servalan must also be on Earth at some point (preferably with Don Keller although the story may well go in another direction). If I don't place Servalan on Earth at some point, I cannot then turn around and say Servalan is infertile and Kasabi fertile, because someone will say: Of course not, since Kasabi was on Earth and Servalan was not. Put the woman on Earth in her younger days, then you can draw a contrast. DC

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Re: [B7L] Star Hunter
by Pherber＠aol.com 10 Jan '02

10 Jan '02

In a message dated 01/07/2002 6:49:47 PM Mountain Standard Time, rilliara(a)juno.com writes: > Did I get that right? _Penny_ is the name of _Travis'_ mother? > Am I alone in thinking the Dreadful One has some explaining to do? The mind boggles...but wants to hear it anyway! <eg> Nina

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re: advert
by JEB31538＠cs.com 10 Jan '02

10 Jan '02

Andrew Williams talked about CHRONICLES, one of the longest running B7 genzines around. The next issue will by number 67. I don't know of any other genzine that has lasted this long, though I could be wrong. Avon Club's fanzines might be as old and prolific. (And I am too lazy to go check the last and final Avon newsletter to see.) But whether is it is only long running one or one of two long running genzines, the fact remains that Chronicles is special and deserves support of the gen community and the B7 writers who write gen B7 stories. It seems to me that there are more slash zines and more slash stories online and on the lists than there are gen zines and gen stories. I have not based this on any research. It's only an impression I've gotten. I would hope that all of you who write gen B7 stories do consider Chronicles as a source of getting your stories published in print. Andrew Williams is the guest editor of Chronicles and very easy to work with. Joyce

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FW: [B7L] Speed freaks?
by Andrew Williams 10 Jan '02

10 Jan '02

Sally asked: >how fast *is* 'standard' speed? My problem with 'standard' speed is the way it seemed to be defined originally. In Cygnus Alpha, Zen asks the new crew to state speed and course. Blake then looks to Jenna for advice, and Jenna hazards "Standard?". Blake says "Standard speed" to Zen, which Zen accepts. Now, if this means they travel at the Liberator's average/usual speed, how do they then do "standard by ten"? If the standard speed of my car is, lets say, 60kph, then at standard by ten I could be doing 600kph (more, if it's geometric)! On the other hand, perhaps 'standard' refers to some kind of constant, like the speed of light. Thoughts?

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Re: planets
by Betty Ragan 10 Jan '02

10 Jan '02

Nicola wrote: > Cygnus is a constellation I think, so maybe the > Alpha refers to the star the planet orbits. This is actually the system currently used in astronomy... Alpha refers to the brightest star in the constellation (as seen from Earth), beta to the second-brightest, etc. Cygnus Alpha is, IIRC, the star more commonly known as Deneb. Whether that's the sytem the Federation uses or not, who knows. > Perhaps they use Greek letters for the star within a constellation, > and number outwards from the sun. Something like this seemed to be a pretty common system on _Star Trek_. ("*This* is Ceti Alpha Five!") -- Betty Ragan ** bragan(a)nrao.edu ** http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~bragan Not speaking for my employers, officially or otherwise. "Seeing a rotten picture for the special effects is like eating a tough steak for the smothered onions..." -- Isaac Asimov

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RE: Re: [B7L] Re: planets
by Nicola Mody-Nikoloff 09 Jan '02

09 Jan '02

Jacqui wrote: > Slightly changing the subject- would Gauda Prime and Cygnus > Alpha have been the first planet settled in their respective systems? Possibly, but I'd imagine only one planet would be settled in each system as only one would have the right temperature for human life. Unless they were double planets (see below). Cygnus is a constellation I think, so maybe the Alpha refers to the star the planet orbits. There's also Del Ten (the resort planet) and Onus Two (the planet Dorian bought his food supplies from) so their nomenclature's a bit inconsistent. Perhaps they use Greek letters for the star within a constellation, and number outwards from the sun. Or there were lots of planets (and people) called Del, and at least one other Onus. And Gauda Prime could be the major planet of two that circle each other (like Terra and Luna, but the moon's huge). Or it could be a reference to the richness of their soil - it was a farming planet after all. :-) Nico *** This e-mail is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please delete the message and notify the sender. ***

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RE: Re: [B7L] Re: deltas
by jacquispeel＠netscape.net 09 Jan '02

09 Jan '02

"Nico Mody-Nikoloff" <nico(a)farsight.co.nz> wrote: >Helen Krummenacker wrote: > >> I'm amazed at how often I see Delta everywhere. There are Delta Growers >> (fresh green beans etc) the Delta Queen paddle steamer on the Waikato >> river, >> Delta Transport etc. It seems a popular letter for some reason. You >> don't >> see mu, iota or epsilon used much. >> >> That would be because in several of these references, if not all of them >> they refer not to a letter but a geographical feature-- i.e. where a >> river spreads out forming a delta... which a paddle streamer would >> naturally travel through, agriculture is often found, etc. >> I do believe this is derived from the letter d delta, which was a >> triangular shape, because the river makes triangular shapes at its >> delta. But the Delta Queen was not named as the fourth in its series >> after the Alpha Queen etc. >> >> Or am I missing the fact that you were joking? > >Well, sort of, but the examples I gave were real. I realise that the Delta >Queen harks back to the Mississippi paddle-steamers as the Waikato doesn't >have a huge delta. This geographical feature doesn't explain the others like >Delta Software or my favourite, Delta Hypnotherapy. And there were 3 times >as many Alphas, but I guess that stands for number one. I didn't look up >Omegas. Hmm, just did - 19, 4 of them with Alpha in the name as well. Greek >letters seem to be popular all round. > >Nico Slightly changing the subject- would Gauda Prime and Cygnus Alpha have been the first planet settled in their respective systems? Would -- __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

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RE: RE: [B7L] Speed freaks?
by jacquispeel＠netscape.net 09 Jan '02

09 Jan '02

"Leia Fee" <leiafee(a)totalise.co.uk> wrote: >Andrew wrote. >>In Cygnus Alpha, Zen asks the new crew to state speed and course. Blake >>then looks to Jenna for advice, and Jenna hazards "Standard?". Blake >>says "Standard speed" to Zen, which Zen accepts. >>Now, if this means they travel at the Liberator's average/usual speed, >>how do they then do "standard by ten"? If the standard speed of my car >>is, lets say, 60kph, then at standard by ten I could be doing 600kph >>(more, if it's geometric)! >>On the other hand, perhaps 'standard' refers to some kind of constant, >>like the speed of light. > >Also what Jenna guessed standard might be is not necesarily what Zen >considers standard... > >Leia > They ask Zen what 'Standard' speed is later (g) - Zen understands the reply. Jacqui -- __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

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re: deltas
by Leia Fee 09 Jan '02

09 Jan '02

Oddly enough, just as I was reading through these messages I put a CD on which was apparently produced by Delta Music. Leia

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Re: deltas
by Betty Ragan 09 Jan '02

09 Jan '02

In physics (and probably in other scientific fields, as well), a delta is used to indicate change. Thus "delta-v" stands for "change in velocity." I'm tempted to make some attempt to relate this fact to Vila's highly changeable personality, but I'll resist. There's also the delta particle, which is extremely short-lived and of highly indeterminate mass. Any fanicful connections to be drawn between this fact and "Orbit" are left as an exercise for the reader. :) -- Betty Ragan ** bragan(a)nrao.edu ** http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~bragan Not speaking for my employers, officially or otherwise. "Seeing a rotten picture for the special effects is like eating a tough steak for the smothered onions..." -- Isaac Asimov

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