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RE: Re: [B7L] Gambit (was Recommendations, anyone)
by Sally Manton 05 Sep '01

05 Sep '01

Jacqui wrote: <Does anyone else have the impression that this is not first time Avon and Vila have done a scam together?> Actually, I firmly believe that it *is* the first time, since Avon clearly doesn't anticipate how Vila will behave when, in public, he can't be brought to 'heel' ... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [B7L] Gambit (was Recommendations, anyone)
by Sally Manton 05 Sep '01

05 Sep '01

After I wrote: <<<gurgle> sounded more disgruntled to me. I do love watching Our Heroes Behaving Badly, and Avon here is as bad as Blake's obstreperousness in Shadow ... though why Vila feels hard done by I don't know. After *his* behaviour at Space City, one can't blame Blake for one moment for *not* taking him down to Freedom City.> Marian added: <But said behaviour might have made Blake anticipate that Vila would want to sneak off again in search of entertainment.> Especially since at the start of Horizon he's making all those noises about rest centres etc ... maybe Blake trusted in Avon's common sense to throw cold water on the idea? (After all, it *is* rather unlike Avon to break out in *this* way). Unfortunately, this time Vila didn't think it up by himself ... he had Avon's 'common sense' to do it for him :-) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Vagina Monologues
by Steve Rogerson 05 Sep '01

05 Sep '01

I went to see this in London this evening and it was sooo funny. There were tears rolling down my face during parts of it. Josette Simon was excellent and performed a few well acted orgasms on stage (at least I presume she was acting). What was really astonishing about her is that she looked hardly any older than she did in B7. The play is only on until 22 Sept, so rush if you want to see it with her in it. After her comments about B7 in the press, I wore a B7 T-shirt, but sadly was too near the back for her to see. -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson Redemption 03, 21-23 February 2003, Ashford, Kent Celebrating 25 years of Blake's 7 and 10 years of Babylon 5 http://www.smof.com/redemption

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Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy
by Judith Proctor 04 Sep '01

04 Sep '01

Don't forget, the radio (original and best) version of The Hitch-hikers guide to the Galaxy starts on Radio 4 on Wednesday 5 September at 6.30. Bring your towel... Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org ) Redemption '03 21-23 Feb 2003 http://www.smof.com/redemption/

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Re: [B7L] Gambit (was Recommendations, anyone)
by Marian de Haan 04 Sep '01

04 Sep '01

Sally wrote: ><gurgle> sounded more disgruntled to me. I do love watching Our Heroes Behaving Badly, and Avon here is as bad as Blake's obstreperousness in Shadow ... though why Vila feels hard done by I don't know. After *his* behaviour at Space City, one can't blame Blake for one moment for *not* taking him down to Freedom City.< But said behaviour might have made Blake anticipate that Vila would want to sneak off again in search of entertainment. Marian

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Re: [B7L] I, Claudius?
by Alison Page 04 Sep '01

04 Sep '01

Dana said - >So the question is, is Blake suffering such despair >that he can't entirely blame Travis for trying to >kill him (and keeps refusing to kill Travis to give >Travis another shot at him?) > Or does Blake secretly hate human beings in some way, as deeply as Travis does, and for similar reasons? After all they are both aiming for the same goal - the destruction of Star One. How different are their motives? Perhaps it is as alienating to be a hero as to be a monster. You are always on the outside of the human race, looking in. I sometimes think great heroism or self sacrifice could be motivated by the fact that the hero doesn't really like people all that much, or want to spend normal time with them. I'm only guessing, because I've never met that kind of big-action hero in real life. I'm not sure what I've described is a very accurate picture of the Blake we see on screen, because he seems too normal and friendly most of the time. But you could imagine that deep inside, there is some sort of fellow-feeling with Travis, a deep rage against everything. And he would rationalise this away, and rationalise away his reluctance to kill his shadow. Alison

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Re: [B7L] Gambit (was Recommendations, anyone)
by Sally Manton 04 Sep '01

04 Sep '01

Joanne wrote: <But is Avon really quite as bored out of his skull as the delivery of the lines suggests (to me, at least), before they start on the topic of the casino?> <gurgle> sounded more disgruntled to me. I do love watching Our Heroes Behaving Badly, and Avon here is as bad as Blake's obstreperousness in Shadow ... though why Vila feels hard done by I don't know. After *his* behaviour at Space City, one can't blame Blake for one moment for *not* taking him down to Freedom City. Following Voice, they're both ripe for a break-out, however. <Blake's only just left, for pity's sake. Surely the, well, pleasure of Vila's company doesn't deteriorate quite that rapidly...> I always thought Vila would be rather good company, especially in the first two seasons before his drinking got more out of hand. And it appears even then, Avon preferred his company to the others (see especially Orbit, where he decides to take Vila with him rather than Tarrant and Dayna, who were originally slated to go). _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: After Life
by Steve Rogerson 03 Sep '01

03 Sep '01

Jacqui wrote: "Jean De Florette (which is on UK TV tonight) was part of a novel - it and Manon de Sources are pretty faithful to the original story (The Water of the Hills - forget the author)" Never read the book, but both were brilliant films. -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson Redemption 03, 21-23 February 2003, Ashford, Kent Celebrating 25 years of Blake's 7 and 10 years of Babylon 5 http://www.smof.com/redemption

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I, Claudius?
by Dana Shilling 03 Sep '01

03 Sep '01

Since there are no ridiculous plot contrivances in B7, it couldn't be a ridiculous plot contrivance, therefore Blake must have a good reason for his repeated failures to kill Travis. Perhaps the question is like that of Hamlet's delay in executing his revenge. A popular current theory is that Hamlet is unwilling to kill Claudius because Claudius has merely succeeded in achieving what Hamlet failed (to kill his father and marry his mother). If anything I'd think it would send him into a jealous rage, but... So the question is, is Blake suffering such despair that he can't entirely blame Travis for trying to kill him (and keeps refusing to kill Travis to give Travis another shot at him?) -(Y)

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Re: [B7L] Recommendations, anyone
by J MacQueen 03 Sep '01

03 Sep '01

>From: "Sally Manton" <smanton(a)hotmail.com> >Gambit is a rather good pick-me-up, certainly, and not just for My >Favourite Gnome ... aren't Krantor and Toise a welcome sight after Justin >and Og? Well, they were, and Jarriere is always good value. But is Avon really quite as bored out of his skull as the delivery of the lines suggests (to me, at least), before they start on the topic of the casino? Blake's only just left, for pity's sake. Surely the, well, pleasure of Vila's company doesn't deteriorate quite that rapidly... Regards Joanne (going through the recommendations so as to choose tonight's viewing) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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