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Re: [B7L] Holidays
by Sally Manton 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

Jacqui: <What 'general public holidays' would there be in the Federation - apart from 'New Year's Day' and 'Founding of the Federation Day'.> and Marian: <The celebration of the president's birthday - abolished by Servalan, who would never admit to getting older.> No, she'd prefer to declare the anniversary of the coup as a celebration (at least for those in a position to celebrate anything :-)) - goodness knows what she would call it (actually, goodness would have nothin' to do with it) but then she only got to celebrate it once, at the most <g> _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Holidays
by Sally Manton 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

Jacqui wrote: <What 'general public holidays' would there be in the Federation - apart from 'New Year's Day' and 'Founding of the Federation Day'.> :-) Much as I'd like to invent heaps of increasingly absurd dictator-style Days of Celebration (President's Birthday, memroial days for a few military and very dead heroes, and a general Space Command dominated Remembrance Day, of course. Numerous large-scale rallies in celebrations and thanksgiving for all the joys of being Federated, oh yes. Anniversaries of every Outer World - errmmm - gathered into the fold (?) etc etc) I tend to doubt that there was actually many of any official or even officially tolerated such holidays in the Inner Worlds, at least - after all, they ain't going to celebrate very convincingly if you keep pumping the drugs into the cakes and ale, now are they? And in the Outer Worlds, I have a feeling any celebrations they'd *want* to have would not be at all to the Powers-That-Be's taste ... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [B7L] 'Sarcophagus'
by Marian de Haan 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

Jacqui asked: >What would have happened if Servalan had met the entity from the episode 'Sarcophagus'?< An interesting battle of wills as the entity had quite different plans for her future than Servalan. Marian (trying to imagine Servalan as the entity's pet)

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Re: [B7L] Holidays
by Marian de Haan 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

Jacqui wrote: >I presume the lyst is quiet because 'everybody is on holiday'< Or busy writing fanfiction. >What 'general public holidays' would there be in the Federation - apart from 'New Year's Day' and 'Founding of the Federation Day'.< The celebration of the president's birthday - abolished by Servalan, who would never admit to getting older. Marian

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Re: [B7L] Light bulbs
by Tony Nolan 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

How many light bulbs does it take to change AVON? None: He is the brighest thing on two legs. How many light bulbs does to take to change an AVON ? Just 1: but why wyoud you want to change perfection. How many light bulbs does it take to change AVON? If it will save Vila's life, he will instead. How many light bulbs does it take to change AVON? "What!! I only use Plasma please" Avon How many light bulbs does it take to change AVON, As many as you like, as long as there all turned off, you cant steal credits in the dark!! How many light bulbs does it take to change VILA, Just 1, but thats only when it pop's Ok, I know, enough is enough - giggle tony At 08:20 20/08/2001 +1000, Andrew Williams wrote: > >Betty wrote: >>Aw! But now I wanna know... How many light globes *does* it take to >>change an Avon? > >How many space rats does it take to change a light bulb? > >Two - one to change the light bulb; the other to kick the chair out from >under him, gook! >

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Holidays
by jacquispeel＠netscape.net 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

I presume the lyst is quiet because 'everybody is on holiday' What 'general public holidays' would there be in the Federation - apart from 'New Year's Day' and 'Founding of the Federation Day'. Jacqui __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

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Light bulbs
by Andrew Williams 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

Betty wrote: >Aw! But now I wanna know... How many light globes *does* it take to >change an Avon? How many space rats does it take to change a light bulb? Two - one to change the light bulb; the other to kick the chair out from under him, gook!

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How Green was my Valley
by Judith Proctor 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

Much to my relief (having found the choices direct web site to be a bit of a pain) I have found that you can buy How Green Was My Valley from Blackstar. I like Blackstar. They're friendly, reliable, their web site works and they always tell you the postage cost up front instead of making you wait until you've spent ten minutes struggling through the order process to find out that it all costs several pounds more than you expected. (my pet hate about Amazon) By way of celebration, we've stuck a link to the relevent page on Blackstar on the top page of http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 So, if you want to get the video (and it's worth it for Sian Phillips as well as Gareth - she gives a wonderful performance) then I'd recommend Blackstar. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org ) Redemption '03 21-23 Feb 2003 http://www.smof.com/redemption/

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Re: Fan artist dies
by JEB31538＠cs.com 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

Thanks, Kathryn, for the news. It's always sad when someone in fandom dies. Warren will be remembered for his art. I treasure my Warren Oddsson Blake's 7 t-shirt and the print of it as well. He did a wonderful job. For those who haven't seen the B7 B&W pen and ink, there's a large Blake face in the foreground and a smaller Avon face in the background on the left. There's a large Liberator on the right, coming out of Blake's curls. Every Escapade con in February I wear my Oddsson B7 shirt one of the days. I also bought his Star Trek (TOS) print. In the mid-90's it was very easy to buy his work on tees as well as prints. And prices were very reasonable. I have no clue now how one would go about buying his art currently. I did visit the memorial page and the B7 print is not up and the ST:TOS print I have is not one of the ones that is shown. If you like art, you might give the Oddsson site a visit. http://home.istar.ca/~swpc/warren Joyce

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Re: [B7L] Re: Location, Location, Location
by Ellynne G. 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 20:22:58 +0200 "Marian de Haan" <maya(a)multiweb.nl> writes: > > Only if illigitimacy causes a social stigma or disadvantage in the > Federation. We have no canonical evidence for or against that, but > considering the tolerant attitude to unmarried couples, I would > assume that > illigitimicy doesn't carry the stigma it did until recently in our > Western > societies. JMHO, but I think it was a mixed bag. The Federation does seem to have some privileges that are effected by birth (education, connections, status, possibly citizenship). My guess would be that a child's automatic claim to these would be effected by the status of the parents' relationship but not necessarily in an inalterable way. While the Federation shows a high tolerance of unmarried couples, this may or may not extend to children. I'm thinking of a fantasy series I was reading where the fact that this one race has complete or near complete control over whether a child is conceived has led to a heavy stigma against illegitimate or mixed race children although unmarried couples or mixed race romances are taken for granted. So, the Federation with its domes and high level of government interference seems like the kind of place that would have a tradition of legal meddling in birth. It seems likely that, if there was a time when people on Earth were confined to a few domed cities because of radiation and so on, strict limits on population growth would have been in effect and that some of that mind set survives. So, I would guess that a child of a marriage between parents of equal citizen ranks has the full rights and privileges associated with that rank until they're tested on their own. They also probably have open connections to the influence of both sides of the family. After that, it probably gets complicated. That is, rights and privileges might not be automatic but they might be controlled by various customs and traditions that had near legal force. The child of an unmarried couple might or might not have privileges from the father's side. It might be controlled by whether the father acknowledges the child as his or various things might be considered under his discretion rather than automatic. Depending on other factors, the mother's extended family might have similar control. So, if Servalan had a child, I doubt anyone would blink an eye. If Anna Grant had Avon's child while, apparently (everything she said being open to debate), married to another man, matters could be complicated (and further complicated by all the side plot elements). Other questions: Would the Federation legalize unions between different grades? Would the gap between grades make a difference (Alpha-Beta legal, Alpha-Delta not)? What elements might have been open to paternal discretion? But, skipping all that, Avon's always struck me as someone who's had to fight for his position in society, that he had to prove himself. If his status was open to question or could be altered at the whim of relatives who didn't seem to fond of him in the first place, I could see where it came from. Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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