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Re: Orbit
by Steve Rogerson 22 May '01

22 May '01

Sally said: "Had Avon been on the shuttle with one of his below-weight crew, I somehow don't see Orac piping up like that. Since Dayna (or Soolin) *and Orac* would probably make the difference" That depends. Orac is a pretty tough box. It would have to decide what its best chance of survival was - in a crashed shuttlecraft with all that broken metal about or in a freefall to the planet. Neither offer much hope, but Orac would calculate it to the nth decimal place. -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson Redemption 03, 21-23 February 2003, Ashford, Kent Celebrating 25 years of Blake's 7 and 10 years of Babylon 5 http://www.smof.com/redemption

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Re: [B7L] Re: Orbit
by Anna Simpson 22 May '01

22 May '01

At 15:34 20/05/01 +0000, you wrote: >M wrote: > >> >What always surprised me in Orbit is that - Avon hides a gun, Avon hidea >> >a >> >gun and Orac. SO why didn't Avon hide a teleport bracelet? Would have >> >saved a lot of hassle. OK, it would have ruined the plot. > >YOU CAN'T TELEPORT BETWEEN TWO FAST MOVING OBJECTS. I've always thought this sounded like a rather unconvincing fudge on the part of the scriptwriters to fill in an obvious route out of the set-up. As any Monty Python fan will tell you, *everything* in the universe is a fast moving object with respect to *something*. So presumably, the 'fast moving' refers to the relative speeds of the teleport pick-up and materialisation points. The standard proceedure for teleporting between two 'moving' ships seems to be matching speed and vectors (as in, for example, teleporting from Liberator to the Ortega in MtD). There is also a teleport between two ships in flight in 'Moloch', although the proceedure is glossed over. Both these examples involved the Liberator teleport, but the 4th season also provides clear examples of the teleport operating successfully when the departure and arrival point are in motion relative to each other (as Pella attempts to flee with Scorpio in 'Power', when Zeeona returns to Xenon base in 'Warlord', and as Scorpio plummets towards Gauda Prime in 'Blake'.) As Scorpio is most definitely capable of flying and manuevering within the atmosphere ('Traitor', 'Sand', etc) it would seem to be difficult to think of a convincing reason why Scorpio couldn't have matched the speed and vector of the shuttle to a sufficient degree to permit a successful teleport in 'Orbit'. Except, of course, that the Plot required otherwise. >Jenny love Anna

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Orbit
by Leia Fee 22 May '01

22 May '01

>Had Avon been on the shuttle with one of his below-weight crew, I somehow >don't see Orac piping up like that. Now I'm thinking about how much longer it would have taken Avon to decide that Vila could go if Orac hadn't said anything. Would he have checked with Orac how much Vila weighed? I f Vila hadn't heard them talking about it would he have guessed Avon would try to kill him? If Avon had found Vila how would the confrontation have gone. Oh I like this episode...so many possiblities so many ways it could have gone. Leia

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Quoting B7 at friends
by Leia Fee 22 May '01

22 May '01

I said... >>So many B7 quotes are so useful on a reenactment battlefield... <snip> >>"I just don't want to die - is that unreasonable?" ><grin> and did the others all come back with "yes!!" the way they did at >Vila? Um, yes actually<grin> there were one or two there I knew as B7 fans but a good half dozen people chorused 'yes!' it's a pretty obvious comeback. They wanted to throw me underneath the boarsnount charge again as it worked so well the time before - when everyone trod on me and promptly tripped over. Come to think of it,there've been shows I could have used Vila's complaint from Games - " I've been shot at, trodden on, nearly captured twice and now I think they're trying to blow me up. A fairly average day. You know. " more or less accurately. Ok I was being shot at with a longbow not a shiny gun and the cannon weren't *all* that close but aside from that pretty close<grin> Leia

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Quoting B7 at friends
by Leia Fee 22 May '01

22 May '01

regarding the >>the "I am not expendable, I'm not stupid, and I'm not going" line. Carolyn said... >>I got to use that one years ago, when I was "volunteered" to help with the radiation >>examinations on the Three Mile Island waste trains passing through the area. >>(It didn't help. Stupid and expendable or not, I had to go.) <g> You obviously weren't as convincing as Avon<grin> Leia

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Smacks round the head
by Leia Fee 22 May '01

22 May '01

Sally said... >> as the Hero (eponymous or otherwise) I fo think Blake and Avon got >>more than their share of being thumped (that's how just about *everyone* got >>a turn as rescuing Fearless Leader :-)). They get more of being hit but Vila more than makes up his share in clutzy accidents. How many times does he land in a heap after teleporting?<grin> he get generally manhandled a fair bit too. >>And once he led the credits, Avon >>got hit on the *head* more often than everyone else (three times in Power, I >>think that's the record!). The poor dab<g> No wonder he went doolally <running for cover from any ensuing debate on whether Avon was in fact doolally> ;-) > Probably one reason *why* he wanted to find Blake >again, so he could go back to giving out the headaches instead of having >them. Yep Fearless Leaders are useful for taking the brunt of the hitty fighty. Leia

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Characters as vegetables
by Leia Fee 22 May '01

22 May '01

Regarding Gan as a potato assorted people said... >> Oh, hah-hah...as if you didn't know he has a "chip." Clever fellow... >> LOL, Leah, I was only thinking brown, lumpy, and dense. >>And I thought: large, roundish, heavy, filling, but bland. Earthy... I can see Gan as a Farmer-Jones type somehow. Leia

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When 'Animals' Camouflage
by Leia Fee 22 May '01

22 May '01

Leah wrote... >>I have ambitions to rule the planet. and similiar.. I replied... >>What are you going to do with your other hand? ;-)>>> and Annie explained... >>She will be drawing cartoons, of course! ;-) Ah so she's goging to take over the world with her off hand. Now I *am* truly impressed! ;-) Leia

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Quoting B7 at friends
by Leia Fee 22 May '01

22 May '01

Rita said... >I tend to do this at work, mostly without realising I'm doing it. I went >through a "well now" phase for a bit, until a visiting executive recognised the >reference. Have been teased mercilessly about it ever since... *You* have? You weren't the one fannish enough to pick up and notice it...I hope that exec is getting teased too ;-) >I'm just waiting for the right "I don't want to travel" opportunity at work to >use the "I am not expendable, I'm not stupid, and I'm not going" line. Hehe, I was rather smug at getting such a perfect opputunity to use it myself Leia

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Re: [B7L] oh well
by Jenny Kaye 22 May '01

22 May '01

Deborah Day wrote: >I knew it was too good to last. You've had the vegetables, now here's the meat. Jenny _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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