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mad gan
by Alison Page 12 Apr '01

12 Apr '01

Louise said >That would be Peter Sutcliffe No, he was the Beatles first drummer Alison ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com **********************************************************************

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Re: command question
by Steve Rogerson 12 Apr '01

12 Apr '01

Someone asked: "What was the rather unpleasant Clegg?" Section leader Klegg, cleverly disguised as Mr Bronson. After replies on here and FC, I'm sticking with the made-up rank of group commander and saying that it is one below space commander (this fits cos my character is hankering after promotion). -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson Redemption 03, 21-23 February 2003, Ashford, Kent The 25th Anniversary Blake's 7 Convention The 10th Anniversary Babylon 5 Convention http://www.smof.com/redemption

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who shot who
by Iain Walker 12 Apr '01

12 Apr '01

Who shot who This is a look at "who shot who". Inspired by "Who kissed who" at Judith Proctors' site (http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7/whatswhat/Kisses.html), except I don't have screenshots of all the killing. First a few rules (based on me wanting to make this a measure of killingness): - I only counted direct face-to-face (or close to it) kills (so unknown numbers of people on spaceships didn't count). - I also counted kills that were not actually shot with a gun, but it was pretty clear one of our heroes did the killing. - They had to be on screen kills. - They had to be human (or humanoid, or in human shape and treated as sentient by the script - so I counted Vinny the Android, for example)) - If I wasn't sure - they aren't dead (like lots of the people Gan bashes). - I split Travis in half between Blake and Avon - I only counted our heroes - next time through all 52 I'll do the baddies and guests All the results tabulated by character and episode are available in an Excel spreadsheet (email me offlist if you want a copy). And the winner is.. No surprise - Avon at 47.5 kills Avon also has the highest per episode kill rate of 0.93. The ranking by number of kills is: Avon - 47.5 Dayna - 22 Tarrant - 20 Blake - 16.5 Soolin - 11 Jenna - 8 Cally - 5 Vila - 3 Gan - 1 This doesn't seem fair to those who aren't around much (e.g. Soolin), so I tried ranking by kills per episode, but actually nothing changes, except Soolin moves up a few spots: Avon - 0.93 Dayna - 0.85 Soolin - 0.85 Tarrant - 0.77 Blake - 0.59 Jenna - 0.31 Cally - 0.25 Vila - 0.06 Gan - 0.06 So the cast divides neatly into kill at the drop of a hat (A,D,S, T and B) and the softies (J, C, V and G). There are some surprises/observations: These results reinforce the kick-ass nature of the women in B7 with Dayna and Soolin doing lots of killing. However, Soolin the hired gun gets 8 of her kills in just two episodes (Warlord and Gold) - the rest of time she just isn't a killer. "Companions for my death" Cally is also rather circumspect in the "shoot first" scale. Avon takes time to get going but makes up for it later. Only one confirmed kill in season 1. So maybe he was telling the truth to Jenna about not being sure about shooting someone (although the story we get later about him killing the visa guy shoots this all apart :-)). Vila kills noone for two whole seasons. Gan would have ranked higher but his implant actually worked. If we look at series instead of individuals there is a steady increase in killing (as the plots got thinner ;-/): Series 1 - 15 Series 2 - 25 Series 3 - 39 Series 4 - 55 For a total of 134, or 2.6 per episode. Of course many more people are killed in the show as a whole, but I haven't counted up the villans kills yet (or the single show guests). Also - lots of people get killed by the gang in series one and two when they are blowing up various installations - but these are hard to count. Individual episodes show a wide range of bloodthirstiness. In 16 episodes our heroes kill no-one. In both Gold and Warlord, 10 are shot. Blake (the episode, not the man) is runner up, with nine kills (everyone but Dayna gets someone to kill). The highest single number killed in one episode by one character is six by Blake in Redemption. Summary: No real surprises, although at 47.5 kills, you could say Avon had it coming to him at the end. Avon kills the most and the most often. It must be all those rescue missions :-p. Dayna and Tarrant follow, with Soolin matching them on a per episode basis. At the other extreme, Vila hardly ever kills. The show gets progressively more blood-thirsty with each series. The episode to episode range is big and often our heroes shoot nobody at all. - Iain

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command question
by Steve Rogerson 11 Apr '01

11 Apr '01

A quick question for a story I'm writing. I've got a Federation officer in charge of three fighters with a small crew on each. What's the rank? I've used "group commander" for the time being, but I'm not sure that's right. -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson Redemption 03, 21-23 February 2003, Ashford, Kent The 25th Anniversary Blake's 7 Convention The 10th Anniversary Babylon 5 Convention http://www.smof.com/redemption

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Re: [B7L] Another Question
by Bizarro7＠aol.com 11 Apr '01

11 Apr '01

In a message dated 4/10/01 1:01:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Caveatemptor1(a)aol.com writes: << I just read Bryn Lantry's story "The Thirteenth Hour" in RITES OF PASSAGE. It's wonderful! She writes such marvelous Avon/Blake...Avon-Blake dialogue. This is now one of my favorite Bryn stories. >> Bryn Lantry is my favorite erotic author in B7, bar none. As far as I'm concerned, the style phrase you were looking for is "bloody talented." Leah

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Conference
by Una McCormack 11 Apr '01

11 Apr '01

Hi all, I've just got back from a week of conferences. Over the weekend I was at one called 'TV and the Fantastic', where my paper 'Zen and the Art of Script-Editing: Terry Nation, Chris Boucher and authoring "Blake's 7"' went down well with the cheering, roaring and stamping masses (OK, there were ten of us). Una

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Re [B7L] Bodycounts
by Neil Faulkner 11 Apr '01

11 Apr '01

Here are the bodycounts as given in the Sevencylopaedia: additions and corrections welcome. AVON: a scavenger in Deliverance one of the President's security personnel on Zonda a trooper on UP-Weapon four Federation troopers on Horizon Tynus two of Mori's troopers in Volcano one of the Thaarn's guards on Crandor (Tarrant also shot one, and one of these two was only wounded) four of Shad's guards in The Harvest of Kairos at least two of Bayban's men on Keezarn Shrinker (effectively) and Anna Grant in Rumours of Death Dorian's creature in Rescue two Hommiks and later Pella in Power two space rats in Stardrive a mutoid in Animals a guard on Zerok, at least one guard on the Space Princess four troopers on Betafarl in Warlord and two bounty hunters and later Klyn on Gauda Prime before finally killing Blake himself 36 kills minimum. BLAKE at least two of Vargas followers, and teleported Vargas into deep space. A trooper in SLD. a programmed guardian in Time Squad an Amagon with an exploding neck collar in Bounty; broke a trooper's neck in Project Avalon; shot two guards on Space World and killed another with a pain-inflicting instrument shot a guard on UP-Weapon the Assistant Kommissar on Horizon Provine in Countdown. two Goths holding Rod captive "Stot" on Star One. On Gauda Prime he was seen to kill the bounty hunter Tando, and shot down a flier containing an unspecified number of gunrunners. 17, plus gunrunners. CALLY Sherm and another of Bayban's men A Link 3, plus however many were in the Space City gunship. DAYNA shot two Sarrans dead with a bow (would have killed a third but Avon stopped her) Klegg in Powerplay Mori and a trooper on Obsidian two of Bayban's men with a heat-seeking bomb two troopers in Rumours of Death the General in Traitor (in a hand-to-hand struggle) two of Justin's creations on Bucol-2 four troopers in Games (3 shot, one with a Mecronian throwing knife) shot a guard on Zerok and killed up to three more with a grenade. 17-20 GAN No confirmed kills. JENNA two of the guardians in Time Squad at least 4 troopers in Project Avalon Molok, by teleporting him into deep space. 7 kills. SERVALAN Coser and later one of her own troopers with IMIPAK Kasabi through drugs in interrogating her a Sarran Deral and Ginka Hob a number of Grose's men on Sardos Practor, Forbus and Leitz on Helotrix Ardus and Justin in Animals More than 12. She was also responsible for the deaths of Ensor Jr., Maryatt, Ardus, Zukan, Finn, possibly Gerren and probably Keiller. SOOLIN four space rats on Caspar a mutoid on Bucol-2 3 guards on Zerok, another on the Space Princess 5 or 6 troopers on Betafarl (one with a dagger-like energy weapon, four with a heavy rifle of some sort, perhaps one or more when first attacked) a technician in Blake's base on Gauda Prime and a Federation trooper soon afterwards 16-17 kills. TARRANT three of Klegg's men one of the Thaarn's guards (though that might have been Avon) two of the Ultra Grose and Lector on Sardos Vinni a Link on Terminal two troopers in Games Investigator Reeve on Virn a guard on Zerok and another on the Space Princess a trooper on Gauda Prime 15-16 kills TRAVIS A Phibian on Aristo A clone of Blake Gan a trooper at his court martial Nagu and Ven Glynd Cevedic and henchman Just 7, even including the phibian. VILA one of Vargas' followers a trooper in Games 2 (but then he doesn't like personal violence) Neil

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RE: [B7L] Mad Gan
by Louise Rutter 11 Apr '01

11 Apr '01

Neil wrote: >I wasn't sure that >everyone would have even heard of the Yorkshire Ripper, Philip Sutcliffe. That would be Peter Sutcliffe Louise

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(no subject)
by Caveatemptor1＠aol.com 11 Apr '01

11 Apr '01

<< Drool? Me? No, no, no - we speak of the Alan Rickman in the hushed tones of reverence; no drooling allowed. >>

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RE: [B7L] Mad Gan
by J MacQueen 11 Apr '01

11 Apr '01

>From: Louise Rutter <Louise.Rutter(a)btinternet.com> >Neil wrote: > >I wasn't sure that everyone would have even heard of the Yorkshire > >Ripper, Philip Sutcliffe. >That would be Peter Sutcliffe Poor Neil. That'll teach him to lurk <grin> Regards Joanne (No, I don't really think so either...) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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