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Re: fandom
by Helen Krummenacker 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

> Is there anyone out there who *does* watch B7 or another show at least > partly (and large-part, please) for one of the minor characters, with little > interest in the majors? Buffy. The lead is self-centered and often obnoxious and/or whiney. But Giles is so marvellous. I like Xander. Anya says the most unbelievable things. In fact, I think the entire ensemble is terrific. I'd be happy if the pulled a 'Blake' with her and let the show go on without Buffy if SMG deecided to leave. Angel, similiar. I originally watched it for Doyle. Then Cordy kept developing and now is the best character. Gunn is neat, too. When I was a child, Chekov was my favorite character on the original Star Trek series.

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Re: Our Heroes
by Sally Manton 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Helen wrote: <I always thought that was the point of referring to them that way... it's the sort of Irony the show drips with.> One of the things I do like is that, of Blake's original recruits, the ones that lasted the longest were the two least-obviously and certainly least-enthusiastically heroic of the lot - and that Orac (whose concern for his own plastic hide exceeds even Vila's) is the *only* one we're certain survived the closing credits. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] Re: fandom
by Sally Manton 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Mistral wrote: <I have this vision of Avon and Vila on night duty, arguing over which vis-play to watch on the main screen. Vila wants to see the Matrix. What does Avon want to see instead?> The Spy Who Came in From the Cold. For some reason, neither of them are keen on The Charge of the Light Brigade "Space Fleet to the left of them, Space Commander to the right of them, into the valley of death flew the ... errr ... six ..." _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: Adrenaline and Soma
by Helen Krummenacker 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

> In Horizon, Cally gives Vila a shot, > he reacts with great pleasure, and she > has to TELL him that it's adrenaline and > soma--so presumably this is his first > contact. Yet very shortly afterwards, > when Cally reiterates to Blake that they > need a rest, Blake says "What about the > old adrenaline and soma?" and Cally says > that they've "practically been living on it." > Vilakins may be self-administering by mouth; he wouldn't much like needles, would he? And the feel of a injected drug might be different from the same thing swallowed as a liquid-- different absortion rates, you know.

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Re: fannishness
by Helen Krummenacker 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

> In his case, which may well extend to other non-fans, I can think of > several possible reasons for Fan Avoidance Activities: > 4 (admittedly simiar to 3 on Tavia's list) They just feel like Real Life is more important to them. My parents watch and read plenty of science fiction, but would rather visit relatives than go to a Con. They don't criticize my own interest in Cons and can talk SF with my friends (who think they are extremely cool), but they think the word Mundane is slightly offensive and aren't interested in joining Fandom.

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Re: Jenna and Avalon
by Helen Krummenacker 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

> Another interesting question is why Jenna knows Avalon. And a possible > answer is that when *we* met her firstly, Avalon needed transportation to > another planet. I assume that wasn't the only time she needed it. And Jenna > was the one who did the transport. > > Hellen My guess was that Jenna had previously smuggled supplies to rebel groups, stuff to make explosives, armaments, etc; and that Avalon was a regular customer. But transport works, too.

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More Penguin News....
by Sestina94＠aol.com 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Hey Guys, I meant to send this to the list a while ago. I got the following story from The New Yorker under the title of "Crouching Tiger, Trembling Penguins." (Apologies to Neil who has read this before.) Penguins in the Coney Island Zoo being stalked by feral cats. The penguins are trembling not so much from fear, but because they are jackass penguins and that is a biological quirk of theirs. Anyway, the zoo hired an exterminator to get rid of the cats -- but he proved upsetting to the nearby pro-cat neighbors who were disturbed by his evasive answer to the question of how he actually got rid of the cats. (He replied that he sent them to a friend of his in New Jersey who, um, "took care of them." I don't know if non-American readers can pick up on the obvious Mafia-like overtones to the reference to the friend in New Jersey here.) So, while the penguins of Antarctica are migrating to the beaches of Brazil (a story I heard about months ago on National Public Radio), penguins held captive in the land of the free cannot even tremble in peace for fear of being turned into cat food. To paraphrase a quote by Herman Melvlle, "Ah, Penguins, Ah humanity!" Pat C. Closet Penguinphile

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RE: [B7L] Sally's Terminology
by Anna Sawitzky 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Hi, all. Sally wrote: > > <<My Favourite Gnome - Jarriere.>> I wrote: > > Not Vila? <innocent look> Pred'x wrote: > <giggle> Considering Michael Keating is apparently as tall as Paul > Darrow, do you think: > > a) he's acting a character who's shorter > > or > b) Vila uses body language to appear shorter (slumps, looks down, > looks > unthreatening &c. Just wanted it clear I was talking about Vila, not Michael Keating. Yeah, I know there's maybe a half inch difference, with Michael K. slightly taller than Paul D., but on the show, almost constantly, Vila is seen as a few inches shorter than Avon. So, yeah, my tongue was firmly in cheek, with my above response. > Cheers, Pred'x Anna

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Re: answering Neil
by Anna Sawitzky 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Hi, all. Neil said: > > And not a trace of an American > > accent, which I wouldn't be surprised if Xena's got. To which Helen responded: > Lucy Lawless is formerly an opera singer. As a New Zealander, I doubt > she has an American accent. To dull American ears, however, New > Zealanders and Canadians tend to sound a lot 'like us' as opposed to > the delicious exoticness of Australian and most British dialects. In the show, Xena has an American accent, as did Michael Hurst when Hercules was running, however, their real accents are quite different. I've heard Lucy Lawless speak a few times on Entertainment Tonight (American show hyping entertainment) and it's certainly not the way Xena speaks. I've read that Michael Hurst lived in England as a kid, then around age 9, his family moved to New Zealand, and he's worked in Kiwiland and Australia, so his accent is probably a bit different from the norm of London or New Zealand. Sorry, I'd never mistake a New Zealand accent for a Canadian accent. Canadian and American accents however, depending on one's locale, would sound astonishing similar. A New Yawker won't be mistaken for a Torontonian, but in general, Canadian and American accents are a lot closer, than American and New Zealand, or Canadian and New Zealand. To a Canadian, a New Zealand accent can easily be mistaken for a British one (I know; my mom's from New Zealand and she's often been asked where in Britain is she from). Anna

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Re: Vila
by Helen Krummenacker 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

> b) Vila uses body language to appear shorter (slumps, looks down, looks > unthreatening &c. > I think Vila has developed skills at Not Being Noticed that serve him both as a pickpocket, and as a non-combatant in jails. Look Small and Unthreatening, and people don't tend to bother you as much. Also, Michael Keating in 1991 looked quite buff in a T-shirt so I think Vila may have better mucles (all the better for second-story work and Running Away) than his outfits revealled.

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