Blakes7 December 2001

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RE: RE: [B7L] Insults
by jacquispeel＠netscape.net 07 Dec '01

07 Dec '01

"Leia Fee" <leiafee(a)totalise.co.uk> wrote: >Sally said.. >>> AVON: Staying with you requires a degree of stupidity of which I no >>>longer feel capable. >>> BLAKE: No, you're just being modest. >>> Absolute best putdown of the entire series, and sooooo beautifully, >>> carelessly done as well :-) > >The Dana said... >>I wonder if it isn't NOW you're just being modest. > >I thought it was 'now' as well. > >>But let's not forget: >>GAN: I think we make a good team. >>AVON: Well, hooray for us. >>which, in a sense, is a putdown of the conventions of television series >>in general. > >Like that one too. Avon does seem to get the largest shares of snippy >remarks. > >Leia > To modify an exchange slightly - how plausible is this? (Victim): Was that an insult or did I miss something. Avon: Yes -- __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

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Mission to Destiny
by jacquispeel＠netscape.net 07 Dec '01

07 Dec '01

In 'Mission to Destiny' Blake caused the destruction of the Destiny group's (adjective anyone?) spaceship, when it was neither in a war zone/state of conflict with the Liberator, nor a danger to general shipping. No mention is made of him making restitution to the inhabitants of Destiny for this 'wanton act of destruction' despite their being fairly cash strapped at the time. No doubt he would have felt morally obliged to do so - so would he have paid the equivalent sum, or provided them with 'another spaceship of equal or better quality'? (The rest of the crew would - probably - concur with replacing what had been destroyed, even 'I am a man of my word' (g).) Jacqui -- __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

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RE: [B7L] Insults
by Sally Manton 07 Dec '01

07 Dec '01

AVON: Staying with you requires a degree of stupidity of which I no longer feel capable. BLAKE: No, you're just being modest. Absolute best putdown of the entire series, and sooooo beautifully, carelessly done as well :-) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: Blake bashing v. Avon worship
by Mel Saxby 07 Dec '01

07 Dec '01

Ellynne wrote: And, to be honest, I think Blake might have a teeny, tiny right to be a bit put out with anyone who thought he should apologize to Avon for making him shoot. I'm certainly of that opinion. Although I think Avon had understandable reasons for behaving as he did at GP, the blame lies primarily with him. He shot an unarmed man, who was not in any way threatening him. Of course, Blake should have made himself better understood, but he couldn't know what state of mind Avon was in. But, then, I'm sure Avon had no idea he was going to do what he did until he'd done it, by which time it was too late. Mel --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.306 / Virus Database: 166 - Release Date: 12/4/01

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Insults
by Sally Manton 07 Dec '01

07 Dec '01

Another small piece of perfection: VILA: Avon, this is stupid! AVON: When did that ever stop us? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Insults
by Jen McGee 07 Dec '01

07 Dec '01

Dana Shilling wrote: > > But let's not forget: > GAN: I think we make a good team. > AVON: Well, hooray for us. This sequence is one of my favorite exchanges in B7 because, excepting Cally, it captures the mood of every character and their interactions in the group perfectly: BLAKE (briskly) Right. Let's check with the expert. Zen, report status. ZEN (calmly) Liberator is stationary and is stabilized in an anti-orbital posture. VILA (whiningly) Whatever that means. BLAKE (smugly) It means we got it right. JENNA (happily, smiling at Blake) Together we can fly this ship manually. GAN (heartily) I think we make a good team. AVON (dryly) Well, hurray for us. It's like everyone gets one line to sum themselves up. All you need is the telepathic voice of Cally, waiting down on the planet, to chime in with something her people say. :) Jen McGee

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I,Mutoid USA
by Dana Shilling 07 Dec '01

07 Dec '01

For persons in the USA who want copies of I,Mutoid (and who wouldn't) but want to pay in US dollars, you can send a $12 check payable to Dana Shilling or to Cash to: Dana Shilling 41 Mercer Street Jersey City NJ 07302 and I will forward the order and convert the money and send it to Emma. (Ask Emma if you don't believe me--my interest in embezzlement is purely at second hand.) Dana

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Re: quotes
by Helen Krummenacker 07 Dec '01

07 Dec '01

Oh thank you! I had a bit of poor sound quality and never quite made out these lines. > AVON: There are a quarter of a million volts running through that > converter. I make one false move, I'll be so crisped up what's left of me > won't fit into a sandwich. > VILA: I'm a vegetarian. Thanks for the offer, though. >

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Re: [B7L] Re: Blake bashing v. Avon worship
by Ellynne G. 07 Dec '01

07 Dec '01

After thinking about this, it occurred to me there's one reason many of us side with Avon over Blake. Blake was gone for two years, during which time Avon became our main, POV character. We saw much of what happened through his eyes. By the time Blake shows up again, we are acutely aware of what's going on with Avon on this little trip down disaster lane even if we still have to debate what in the world Blake thought he was doing. Our emotions were already there. The justifications are afterthoughts. And, to be honest, I think Blake might have a teeny, tiny right to be a bit put out with anyone who thought he should apologize to Avon for making him shoot. Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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Adapted quotes
by Ellynne G. 07 Dec '01

07 Dec '01

I seem not to be too good at insults (and the good ones were taken). Instead, here are these. They're just quotes from other stories, but somehow (with minor changes) they seemed so B7. So, after Travis tells Servalan his latest, extremely complicated plan, this quote from James Schmitz- 'The black and silver [figure] studied him curiously. "Isn't that likely to be quite a while?" [Servalan] inquired--with such nice control that he almost overlooked the fact that this politically important [in]human hothead was getting angry again.' Or, from an author named Doris Egan- "An appeal for aesthetic judgement will get [Avon]'s attention where an appeal for mercy may leave him cold." Dickens also seemed to have met our heroes. "Who could have seen his . . . brilliant eye; his black-attired figure, idefinably grim, although well-knit and well- proportioned . . . but might have said he looked like a haunted man? Who could have observed his manner, taciturn, thoughtful, gloomy, shadowed by habitual reserve . . . but might mave said it was the manner of a haunted man?" As for Victor Hugo, who could have inspired this? "There are looks like flame that can only come from beings of a certain kind; tinted glasses cannot hide them; they are like a glimpse of Hell. "The visitor smiled." Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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Blakes7 December 2001