Blakes7 January 2002

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Re: [B7L] Re: Character ages
by Sally M 18 Jan '02

18 Jan '02

Tavia wrote: "Sure, he has to be significantly younger than Avon," Not necessarily. Avon could be being sarcastic in Traitor (after all, that would be *so* unlike him). He's probably *already* getting narked at the overflow of youthful high spirits flooding the Scorpio deck ... _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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Re: [B7L] Re: Character ages
by Mac4781＠aol.com 18 Jan '02

18 Jan '02

Tavia wrote: > Men with Tarrant/Pacey's appearance tend to look up to a decade younger > than their age. This would fit with a 35-year-old (to fit the > back-story) looking around 25. I don't have any problem fitting Tarrant's backstory to where he matches Steven Pacey's age (I've sent my Tarrant "bio" often enough that I won't bore the list with a repeat now). Which also fits the character for me. Avon refers to Tarrant as "young" in TRAITOR, so he has to be younger enough than Avon that there is a discernible difference. And Tarrant's actions are those of a "young" man who is only within the course of the series recognizing his morality. His energy, his optimism (while living in a dark society), his naivety all seem to me to be more consistent with 20-something than 30-something. I can see Tarrant as young as 21-22 in Powerplay or as "old" as 24-25, but older than that simply doesn't work with the character as he's presented on the screen (for me). Which isn't to say that other fans can't interpret Tarrant's age (or any of the characters who aren't tied to a specific age by canon) in a manner that matches their perceptions. I've long noticed that most fans regard Jenna to be older than I do, and Cally and Avon as younger than I do. Carol

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Re: Character ages
by Tavia 18 Jan '02

18 Jan '02

Men with Tarrant/Pacey's appearance tend to look up to a decade younger than their age. This would fit with a 35-year-old (to fit the back-story) looking around 25. Steven Pacey in recent theatre roles still looks in his mid-30s, while his dob (acc IMDb) is 1957. Tavia

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Re: [B7L] Re: Character ages
by Sally M 18 Jan '02

18 Jan '02

My (uncanonical) theory is that he was an officer cadet in some form of fascist/communist-style military youth group at the time of the 1st Kairopan harvest - that there was a clear career path through these groups for those who showed 'superior' qualities (young 'show ponies' for the dictatorship) and these led into fast-track officer training at a very young age. This would presumably make him at least 16 at the time, but possibly Tarrant fudged any age restrictions: 1. He may have looked older at *that* time, being tall and self-possessed and rather forward :-) 2. It's possible that the Federation is and was short of manpower at this late stage of its decay; there are other signs of this even before the Andromedan War, the heavy reliance on non-labour-intensive control methods such as drugs and planetary exiles, the poor quality of military personnel. And I doubt that there's many child-labour laws in place :-) If so, the powers that be on lesser missions like the Kairopan collections may have been willing to overlook age irregularities to get half-way decent personnel for what appears to be a pretty unpleasant mission, but which doesn't appear to take any degree of experience or skill. Also, there's no indication that I can recall that he acted as pilot for Jarvik, just as 'lieutenant' in his first command. Given that - when he joins the Liberator - he appears inexperienced *at* command, it's possible that it was soon after the Kairopan mission (and possibly a couple of other minor missions) that he returned to FSA for his 5 years pilot's training and *didn't* act in an officer's position again. I think I'd have to move my estimate of his age at Powerplay up therefore to 29 :-) making him 14 at the time of the 1st harvest. Yes, he still looks younger than this when we meet him, but he's just got the genes for it (odd that it doesn't seem so wrong with Deeta, who needs to be a fair few years older still); also, Tarrant does seem to me when we meet him to have a curiously untouched quality - comes across as someone who's been sheltered (as a show pony/FSA high flyer*) from the harsher realities of Federation life that Jenna, Vila etc know all too well, and it does make him think and seem younger than he is. Sally * this background might also explain his relatively high profile in Harvest, since high flyers would be good fodder for FSA publicity. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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Josette
by Harriet Monkhouse 18 Jan '02

18 Jan '02

Anyone listening to BBC Radio 4 *now* (2.15 on Wednesday afternoon) - Josette's in a play. Don't know what it's about yet. -- Harriet "There is a place for all at the rendezvous of victory." - Aime Cesaire

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Zine lending libraries
by Mac4781＠aol.com 18 Jan '02

18 Jan '02

I didn't have time to volunteer when this subject was initially discussed. Fans mentioned that they were trying to organize B7 zine lending libraries in Australia and New Zealand. And Susan Beth suggested it would be nice to have someone shop for the libraries at MediaWest. There are frequently some good bargains in used zines at MediaWest. Barring unforeseen circumstances, I plan to attend MediaWest and would be willing to shop for B7 lending libraries. The con is at the end of May. Since May is going to be a busy month for me, I'd need shopping lists and spending instructions by the end of April. Feel free to contact me earlier if lending library organizers have any questions. Carol

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Re: [B7L] DVDs
by Mac4781＠aol.com 18 Jan '02

18 Jan '02

Wildean wrote: > Does anyone know if Horizon still exist? I don't expect them to send out > information every seven minutes, but they've certainly been subtle in their > activities for a few months now. Yes, they still exist. Their newsflash service is active. I receive those regularly, including three bulletins in the last couple of days. And they have a temporary new site for news (until a new permanent site can be constructed): www.blessedbe.co.uk/horizon/index.htm Their newsflash service is open to all B7 fans. You don't have to be a member of Horizon. To join, send a message to Susie at carnell7(a)aol.com and ask her to subscribe you. One of the recent newsflashes reported that Gareth will be on BBC 4 in "Rob Roy." On Sunday, I think. I didn't keep the post. The information is probably available at the above website. If you can't find it there, yell and I'll dig the post out of "Old Mail." Carol > > As far as the DVDs are concerned, the last I heard about them was that they > were > due out last Easter as an HMV exclusive release and then ... nothing. > > Wildean > >

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Character ages
by Nicola Mody-Nikoloff 18 Jan '02

18 Jan '02

I've just been having a discussion with a couple of friends about how old the B7 characters are. Are they much the same age as the actors who played them? And if so, just how old were the cast at the time? I have no idea. My guesses for the characters at the point we first see them: Blake 35 Jenna 26 Vila 28 (ignore his hairline) Gan 35 Avon 40 Cally 25 Dayna 18 Tarrant 25 Soolin 22 Just a guess. I'd like to know: 1) how old were the cast at the time 2) how do my guesses compare to other people's 3) Is there a list of generally accepted ages somewhere, considered as canon? Nico *** This e-mail is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please delete the message and notify the sender. ***

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RE: [B7L] RE: DVDs
by Roberts, Patricia ＠ CSE 18 Jan '02

18 Jan '02

> Nico wrote... > >I just heard that a recent Horizon news bulletin reported > that the B7 DVDs are due out this year. > > Leia wrote in response to Nico: > > Now that might just persuade me to finally fork out for a DVD > player... > > Leia > Me too! A multi-standard one since I live in the States. Pat

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DVDs
by Nicola Mody-Nikoloff 18 Jan '02

18 Jan '02

I just heard that a recent Horizon news bulletin reported that the B7 DVDs are due out this year. I went to their site but couldn't find anything more recent than a year-old rumour. Does anyone know anything? Nico *** This e-mail is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please delete the message and notify the sender. ***

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