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Alma Mater
by Dana Shilling 20 Sep '01

20 Sep '01

We know the subject of Egrogian's thesis at Bellhangria University, and several people who are presumably not M.D.s are referred to as Doctor, so there must have been at least some universities. I can't make up my mind whether I think Blake went to one of them or to a specifically engineering school (something like CalTech or MIT, maybe). I think it's at least some evidence that Avon's family was not terribly wealthy that he EVER stopped being a post-doc and got a job. (Although they might have lost their money or disowned him for one reason or another.) In fact his Flight Deck argument style seems carried over from academic infighting. We haven't been told whether one goes to Federation Space Academy after or instead of college--presumably the latter, if Tarrant is old enough to have various post-graduate adventures. Presumably Servalan also went to FSA, although my mind boggles. We aren't told that Jenna DIDN'T go to FSA, but I tend to doubt it. So where, if anywhere, did she go to college? I have no idea about Auron higher education. Gan and Vila probably didn't go to college-- although if there were a B7 version of Doonesbury (...let me hurry to state that I don't think there could be...) Vila would make an excellent Zonker Harris. (I wonder if he's a relative of Xander's BTW.) -(Y)

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Re: [B7L] Second in Command
by Marian de Haan 20 Sep '01

20 Sep '01

Dana wrote: >A six-carbon-based-entity crew is probably too small to actually need a second in command, but Cally would have been the logical choice. Not only does she have experience in a guerilla band (however ill-fated) but she's the only one who actually shares Blake's objectives.< She doesn't show much leadership qualities, though. In S3, where she could have tried to step into Blake's shoes, she seems content with letting Tarrant take the initiative. (As does Avon at first. It seems to me he only takes up the role of leader - very reluctantly - after Tarrant has made a mess of commanding Liberator in Harvest and City.) >That she didn't take on this role probably says more about TPTB's attitudes than Blake's, though.< Probably. Yet it does increase the tension to have an ambigious and unpredictacle character in that role rather than someone who can be relied upon to support Blake through thick and thin :-) Of course, as already pointed out quite recently, for most of S1 Jenna was second in command. Marian

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Second in Command
by Dana Shilling 20 Sep '01

20 Sep '01

A six-carbon-based-entity crew is probably too small to actually need a second in command, but Cally would have been the logical choice. Not only does she have experience in a guerilla band (however ill-fated) but she's the only one who actually shares Blake's objectives. That she didn't take on this role probably says more about TPTB's attitudes than Blake's, though. -(Y)

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Re: Fwd: Re: [B7L] Chenga
by Ellynne G. 20 Sep '01

20 Sep '01

On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 21:22:59 +0000 "Sally Manton" <smanton(a)hotmail.com> writes: > Marian wrote: > > I doubt they'd have taken time out at that stage to do it - Zen > would still > be on his search and rescue for Blake (and presumably Jenna, even if > her > crewmates *were* already going "Jenna who?"), and I can't see either > Avon or > Vila wanting to put the welfare of a whole lot of strangers before > that. > But later, after they'd run out of options and before Avon thought > up his > little revenge plan, Cally *might* have wanted to (might, because at > this > stage Cally doesn't seem to have many ideas on what she wants to do > with > their lives either). I hadn't really seen it as a welfare of strangers issue, although that would motivate Cally. Avon can get awfully protective sometimes towards the crew members he claims not to care about and he may be in a very foul temper after the past few days (war, outmanuevered by Servalan, his ship taken over by strangers he accidentally let onboard, outsmarted [for the first and last time, wasn't it?] by Tarrant, multiple head wounds). But pulling it off might be difficult. If there's shielding, the Liberator might not be able to shoot directly, meaning they'd have to take all the risks involved in a bombing run. Even if it's not, Cally might reasonably insist on giving them a few minutes warning to evacuate (under the assumption several of the people otherwise intended for organ donation might have a chance to get out) which would have them sitting around, twiddling their thumbs while Chenga's space fleet moves towards them. Still, they could tell Lindor, Destiny, Albion, most rebel groups, and any of Jenna's Free Trader contacts she left the e-mail addresses for and expect to at least be listened to. Even if they just tipped off those worlds privately, it could be publicized as from 'reliable sources.' And it wouldn't be a huge problem to get Orac to dig out any information from Chengan computers (layouts of the facilities, numbers of people 'processed,' names and planets or origin). Cally and Vila might include some of what happened to them as coming from first person accounts who have asked that their real names not be used, etc. Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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Re: [B7L] Chenga
by Marian de Haan 20 Sep '01

20 Sep '01

Ellynne wrote: >After Liberator rescued Vila and Cally from Chenga, has anyone ever wondered what happened next? I've always wondered if, after they were revived and the situation was explained, if the crew took any further steps.< Would Avon and Vila have felt that public spirited? After all, one day they might become in need of a "spare part" themselves and then it's nice to know where to acquire one without questions being asked :-) Marian

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Ensor's fish
by jacquispeel＠netscape.net 20 Sep '01

20 Sep '01

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Fwd: Re: [B7L] Chenga
by Sally Manton 20 Sep '01

20 Sep '01

Marian wrote: <Would Avon and Vila have felt that public spirited? After all, one day they might become in need of a "spare part" themselves and then it's nice to know where to acquire one without questions being asked :-)> Now I think of it, I read a story where Avon *needed* a transplant just about then ... I doubt they'd have taken time out at that stage to do it - Zen would still be on his search and rescue for Blake (and presumably Jenna, even if her crewmates *were* already going "Jenna who?"), and I can't see either Avon or Vila wanting to put the welfare of a whole lot of strangers before that. But later, after they'd run out of options and before Avon thought up his little revenge plan, Cally *might* have wanted to (might, because at this stage Cally doesn't seem to have many ideas on what she wants to do with their lives either). _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Domes and religion
by Sally Manton 19 Sep '01

19 Sep '01

Jacqui wrote: <Also - if leaving the domes was a 'Category Four' offence, and the outsiders were to be shunned, how come Servalan as President had a mansion outside in 'Rumours'?> I doubt such mundane things as laws apply to her Supremeness and her like. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Second in command
by Sally Manton 19 Sep '01

19 Sep '01

Ellynne wrote<but why did they turn to Avon? His first shot at command nearly killed everyone.> Well, it does appear to me to have been (as usual) Blake's decision at the start (perhaps he was trying them all out for the role ... would have loved to see Vila's shot at it). And Blake may not be the galaxy's most reasonable man, but I don't think he'd had the cheek to hold it against Avon that one of the crew got accidently misplaced on mission ;-) Also, by Redemption (by which time of course the role *was* being raised in profile) everyone else was clearly deferring to Avon's superior wisdom, knowledge etc etc (both Jenna *and* Cally do the Doctor's Assitant bit in this one, I'm afraid, though it's rather funny when Jenna plays Assistant - "what's going on?" - to both Blake and Avon at the same time). Which sort of made it inevitable - it's a little hard to hold authority over someone like My Darling when you keep having to ask him for the answers. <Maybe worshipping Avon was a side effect of the radiation and even mild doses could be incurable?> Oh dear ... and what excuse do the rest of us have? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [B7L] Chenga
by Sally Manton 19 Sep '01

19 Sep '01

Mistral wrote; <We're specifically told in Harvest that Liberator is equipped for planetary assault.> Yep, I was wrong :-) and James: <And in Shadow, they "burn the President's garden".> Okay, okay, I was definitely wrong (of course, they did go down first to line up the area to burn first). _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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