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Orbit
by Leia Fee 23 May '01

23 May '01

I said... >>I have trouble seeing him [Avon] as the self sacrifing kind though, even for the most >>logical of reasons. I can see him chucking her [Dayna] off and spending however >>long he had left trying to find something to make up the weight. then Susan said... >>No, no. He's *more* pragmatic than that. He'd continue tossing stuff and >>encouraging Dayna to help toss stuff until he figured that they gotten rid >>of [70 kg -Dayna's weight.] >>*Then* he would have pushed her out. You're very probably right. Remind me not to get into any heavy shuttles with you <grin> Leia

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sadness
by Emily Darby 23 May '01

23 May '01

I go away for a few days and come back to another god almighty cat fight i despair of some fans on the internet lists in recent weeks, i have been happily clicking my way though a few hundred posts on both lists and i cannot believe that a group of people who love a 20 year old british sci fi show can get so stupid and nasty to one another i love sci fi and i love Blakes 7 and have been on lysator for years and on space city and now freedom city since the beginning and yes there have been flame wars or whatever you prefer to call them and they usually come and go but in all my years on the internet i cannot remember anything quite as nasty as this my first reaction is to tell everyone to just get a life, the whole thing is just crazy, they would never be this horrible to people in real life we wonder why devoted fans get driven away from fandom, it is because of these people who seem incapable of making their point and then letting it go and accepting as you have to do in life that things don't always go your way, people don't always agree with one another on senistive issues I would not class myself as pro or anti slash, i like both , but it is not real, it is a TV show i know that might offend some people but it is supposed to be a hobby, something we all do for fun, remember that , fun ?, it is certainly not fun and hasn't been for while I sometimes wonder why i stay on the list, i don't post much now, mainly through lack of time but i remember when i first joined how friendly everyone was and there were a few members who went out of thier way to welcome me, i spent a long time in hospital and had to have a lot of time off work and spent a long time corresponding with people on and off list and it really helped me recuperate those people were geniune fans, those kinds of people who took time out to help a newbie find her feet and welcomed me into fandom most of them will not recoqnise the e-mai lthat i am posting from as it is not my orignial one and i have to admit that i am not using my real name for reasons of the dreadful horizon debate last year when Diane Gies and and several of the horizon committee and deliverance committee aired their views very publicly and i was very incensed at some of things they said about people and issues within fandom. I know this is very rambling but there are people who i am not sure if they are on or off lists now but people like Susan Beth, Sarah Thompson, Annie and Leah, Judith Proctor, Ellie, Harriet, Kathryn Anderson, Stever Rogerson, Neil and lots more who have done so much for on and off line fandom that some people would do well to remember All i feel is great sadness for the black hole that we have fallen into, i satt here for over an hour before deciding whether to post but i though what the hell, i may as well put by two penneth worth in I feel lucky to love more than one show so at least when i get fed up of my first love (B7)and Avon i can hop over and have an brief fling with B5 and Garabaldi and Buffy and Angel to satisfy my lust To al lthe genuine fans out there , thanks for being there, hang in there, the prats will soon get bored, to all the pain in the backside people, just get out, get off list and go find somewhere else to play Emily

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Re: [B7L] New frame captures
by J MacQueen 23 May '01

23 May '01

>From: Mistral <mistral(a)centurytel.net> >>Sally Manton wrote: > > Do we have another convert here? ;-) >We can but hope. How do you feel about deep-fried Tunnock's, Joanne? I've forgotten what Tunnocks are. Remind me and I'll think about it. It isn't food, is it? I don't think I could eat anything just at the moment. >Baby Orac? No, forget I said that ... it's Himself's pearly earring >that's left me dazzled and confused ... 'Tis dazzling, isn't it? Regards Joanne _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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H&H: Travis
by Susan Beth 23 May '01

23 May '01

NOTE: all quotes are from "The Complete Writer's Guide to Heroes and Heroines." I'm leaving a lot out - most of which applies, some of which doesn't. If you want the latter, well, buy the book. It's interesting. ;-) -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Travis is The Warrior. (Okay, Travis was a villain in the series, but he could have been, at first anyway, if the series had been told from the POV of the Federation.) "Dark and dangerous, justice is this man's watchword. He is remote, driven and controlled. The WARRIOR's standards of conduct are high, and heaven help those who fail to meet them. Including himself....He is the judge and the jury, and if necessary, the hangman, too." "Merciless with enemies, with friends he is loyal unto death....Once he has given his word-his commitment-he can always be counted upon to come through." "He uses whatever tools are before him to accomplish his goal-whether brute strength or quick thinking." "The WARRIOR is a man of mettle who carries a sword of justice, but that sword cuts both ways." Under virtues: "Tenacious-The WARRIOR does not give up. He is tough-minded and well-motivated. ...Failure is unthinkable." Under flaws: "Relentless-The WARRIOR finds it impossible to give up his quest. He is pitiless, harsh and cruel to his enemies and, sometimes, even to his friends. When death is imminent or others around him are being harmed, this man presses forward until the last breath leaves his body. He will not be denied." Under occupations: "FBI agent. Chasing and catching the bad guys gives this man intense gratification.....The WARRIOR is loyal, meticulous and willing to give his life for the job. He spends long hours searching for clues to a killer and derives great satisfaction when the arrest is made." -- -- -- -- -- And that's the end for the men. Interesting that we get one regular per type, and all the types but one are include. (The missing type is Lost Soul, the enigmatic wanderer without ties, nursing some dark inner secret, one of whose likely jobs is Gunfighter. Deeta Tarrant, anyone?) Tomorrow I'll tackle the women. Susan Beth (susanbeth33(a)mindspring.com)

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Re: [B7L] Trolls
by Jenny Kaye 23 May '01

23 May '01

SOCKPUPPET Leia Fee wrote: > >Oh gods the image of the stroppy element here with all that luminous waggly > >hair is going to have me in hysterics for hours! I'll phone the men in white coats then. With some of the opinions you've been coming up with of late, you need carting off. Jenny _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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H&H: Tarrant
by Susan Beth 23 May '01

23 May '01

NOTE: all quotes are from "The Complete Writer's Guide to Heroes and Heroines." I'm leaving a lot out - most of which applies, some of which doesn't. If you want the latter, well, buy the book. It's interesting. ;-) -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Tarrant is The Swashbuckler. The SWASHBUCKLER is always on the go. His motto is 'Action, action and more action.' He is physical, daring and colorful." "Impulsive and creative, this man lives for the next adventure. He is too restless for a boring desk job, too impetuous for long term commitments. But if his imagination is fired with stories of treasure and romance, he quickly joins the team and is an asset in any endeavor." "This man leaps before he looks. Taking enormous risks to achieve his purpose, the SWASHBUCKLER keeps pushing forward even when everyone around him is fainting from exhaustion....His supreme confidence and joy of life allow him to escape any tragedy." Under virtues: "Fearless-the SWASHBUCKLER does not hesitate when faced with danger. He never freezes when confronted with a gun or runs away from an attacker." "Capable-the SWASHBUCKLER provides a quick unconventional solution to any problem.....He is competent and skilled in any emergency." Under flaws: "Foolhardy-Imprudent in his boldness, he does not stop to weigh the danger before taking off for the next feat of derring-do." Among the suggested occupations for the Swashbuckler are pilot and pirate. :-) Susan Beth (susanbeth33(a)mindspring.com)

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Re: [B7L] now heading back to costumes
by J MacQueen 23 May '01

23 May '01

>From: "Marian de Haan" <maya(a)multiweb.nl> >Don't forget Coser (Weapon) - that collar! Yes, though it does make one wonder if he's had any sort of contact with the people of Destiny, seeing as the crew of the Ortega were almost as bad, collar-wise. Regards Joanne _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: Gan the potato
by Steve Rogerson 23 May '01

23 May '01

Harriet said: "Gan is a banana" You've got a one-track mind. -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson Redemption 03, 21-23 February 2003, Ashford, Kent Celebrating 25 years of Blake's 7 and 10 years of Babylon 5 http://www.smof.com/redemption

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H&H: Gan
by Susan Beth 23 May '01

23 May '01

NOTE: all quotes are from "The Complete Writer's Guide to Heroes and Heroines." I'm leaving a lot out - most of which applies, some of which doesn't. If you want the latter, well, buy the book. It's interesting. ;-) -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Gan is The Best Friend. "Everyone needs a best friend, a pal with broad shoulders to cry on, a guy with a sympathetic ear ready to hear about the latest catastrophe. Decent, kind and responsible, the BEST FRIEND is a buddy who can be counted on whether the chips are down or things are looking up." "He is also very good in a crisis. While others are hysterical, this man's calm, capable presence often soothes the troubled waters. He finds the solution, negotiates the peace and provides the buffer between warring parties. People instinctively trust him to be fair and he never disappoints." "He tries to avoid hurt feelings or create difficulties, so he tends not to step forward and make a fuss. This proclivity can cause him to be overlooked in love and in the workplace." Under virtues: "Stable-Old Faithful has nothing on the BEST Friend. He is consistently dependable and is always there when called for." "Supportive-Leaning on this man is easy because he will never disappear or waver." "Tolerant-the BEST FRIEND is not easily offended. He understands that people are individuals and appreciates their differences." Under flaws: "Unassertive-The BEST FRIEND is accustomed to letting others go first. It is hard for him to step forward, even when he knows he should." Susan Beth (susanbeth33(a)mindspring.com)

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H&H: Vila
by Susan Beth 23 May '01

23 May '01

NOTE: all quotes are from "The Complete Writer's Guide to Heroes and Heroines." I'm leaving a lot out - most of which applies, some of which doesn't. If you want the latter, well, buy the book. It's interesting. ;-) -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Vila is The Charmer. "He is sparkle and glitz, allure and appeal. Exuding enormous charisma, he showers the people in his life with gifts of laughter and happiness. He is always fun, often irresistible and frequently unreliable." "His motto is "live and let live." The CHARMER never judges anyone and it only seems fair that no one judge him. In fact, he never cared much for any restrictions or rules. Life should be a party, not a job. Why can't everyone just have fun?" "The CHARMER tries to get by on his personality and wit. Hard work is not in his vocabulary." "Why would anyone want to spend time on something that does not offer instant gratification? Better to keep everything light and easy." Under virtues: "Witty-Smiles and laughter follow this man wherever he goes. Few can resist the CHARMER's banter. His sense of humor is one of his best assets and he knows it. No matter how bleak the situation, he makes light of it." Under flaws: "Irresponsible-When the baby needs diapering, do not expect the CHARMER to be around, no matter what he promises. His behavior is erratic. He cannot be counted on because he follows his own game plan, and his strategy is rarely obvious to anyone but himself." "The CHARMER: + is dramatic + makes friends easily + is always "on" + has terrific enthusiasm." Vila falls into the sub-category of The Rogue: "The Rogue's smile hides his cleverness." "The Rogue's people skills serve him well." Among the occupations suggested for the Charmer are Gambler and Jewel Thief. Susan Beth (susanbeth33(a)mindspring.com)

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