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Re: [B7L] Re: Blakes7 digest, Vol 1 #406 - 15 msgs
by Jenny Kaye 11 May '01

11 May '01

Helen Krummenacker wrote:> > > Suppose he'd said, 'a trooper killed Bobby. She meant everything to > > > me. We > > > were to be married. When she died, a part of me died as well.' But he > > > doesn't say that, or anything like it. And the reason he doesn't is > > > because > > > the author is trying to tell us something. > > > > > > > > >Yes, the author is saying, "I'm much better at plotting and writing > >clever, snappy dialogue than deeply emotional stuff." But that isn't true. Nation in the past has written some very good "deep emotional stuff." Have you ever watched Survivors? Also the series was script edited by Chris Boucher, another good writer, who can do the "deep emotional stuff" when required (or haven't you seen Rumours of Death?). Jenny _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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We can't *all* be geniuses ... (was: moloch/limiters)
by Sally Manton 11 May '01

11 May '01

Julia writes: <As for common sense, the other men all occasionally manage to give the impression that they shouldn't be allowed out without a keeper. (Me being an A-B junkie, I find it highly amusing that the worst of them (IMO) in this respect should appoint himself as keeper to one of the others.)> <chortle> ain't it the truth ... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: SFX card game
by Helen Krummenacker 11 May '01

11 May '01

> Why would women fancy *him*?") > > Outwith the ranks of B7 fandom, I've observed that women seem much > less > inclined to drool over Avon. Stephen Grief, now, that's another story. > Doesn't prove anything. Would a woman who wasn't a fan of Buffy or Angel consider Angel a 10 in snoggability? I like the shows and *I* don't see the appeal-- he's all right for a friend, but (unloike Avon, who a girl could hope just has had bad luck when it comes to relationships), if Angel ever really loved you, it wouldn't be safe to be together for SURE. Not to mention, he gets a real ugly face sometimes, drinks pig's blood which must make his breath smell, mopes frequently... just to name a few problems. Stephen Greif may appeal to non-fans, but does Travis? We are talking about characters, not actors, on the cards. Likewise, Paul Darrow would of neccessity have a much lowered snoggability rating in comparision to the character, even at the same age; he's a smoker, and non-smokers generally consider it a turnoff to kiss a smoker. Now I'm wondering if the drinking capacity rating was based on the actor rather than the character.

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language in the Federation
by Alison Page 11 May '01

11 May '01

Sally talking about Federation language >>It *is* harsher than what we're used to a lot of the time, more reticent and much less effusive. In other words, more 'British' :-) I read an interview with Robert Altman a couple of days ago. He is using exclusively British actors in his next film (admittedly set in England) and he explained it thus (I paraphrase) that British people are all 'actors' because the society puts a premium on disguising emotion, or revealing it only obliquely. He could have said 'You are all insincere and devious', but he was talking to a British reporter so perhaps he was being tactful. Alison ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com **********************************************************************

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Re: Blake and McVeigh
by Alison Page 11 May '01

11 May '01

Sondra said - >If Blake had thrown a bomb into a building full of innocents (children or not), I wouldn't be defending him. I must say this is a good answer. And it would be possible for Blake, or any of the characters, to have committed acts which were on different sides of that line, in different episodes Alison ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com **********************************************************************

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Re: [B7L] Re: SFX card game
by Marian de Haan 11 May '01

11 May '01

Helen wrote: >Now I'm wondering if the drinking capacity rating was based on the actor rather than the character.< Or they got confused and attributed Vila's drinking to Avon? :-) Marian

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Re: Gan's woman
by Helen Krummenacker 11 May '01

11 May '01

Dana suggested: It occurred to me last night that, since many statements made in B7 reflect an economical attitude toward truth (perhaps it's a scarce, rationed resource) perhaps the decedent was Gan's "woman" and the trooper's wife, and the trooper killed her when she happened to be in bed with Gan at the time. I had never thought of that possibility, but it seems so very in keeping with human nature that I like it very much. It's very plausible and taints Gan with some of the responsibility for what happened to her-- yet another Balke's 7 situation where none of the heroes are squeaky-clean. And it does suit the phrasing perfectly. The woman was married to the trooper, but was "Gan's woman" by her own heart. Here's an eerie idea for a fanfic-- what if Gan's woman (wife, lover, as you will) was only injured, and transformed into a mutoid after the incident? Or what if she was never really dead-- he was deliberately misinformed to make him angry (hey, people do strange things in the Federation). We've seen some interesting on screen scenes with Travis and the mutoid he appears to have known, and of course, Avon and Anna-- what would happen if Gan had met the woman he loved on the other side of the struggle?

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Re: [B7L] Re: Gan's woman
by Jenny Kaye 11 May '01

11 May '01

Alison Page wrote: > >Suppose he'd said 'the trooper had killed Bobby' - who would have known > >what > >he meant? It could have been his budgie :-) Suppose he'd said, 'a trooper killed Bobby. She meant everything to me. We were to be married. When she died, a part of me died as well.' But he doesn't say that, or anything like it. And the reason he doesn't is because the author is trying to tell us something. Jenny _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: Fw: [B7L] Avon needs blake...
by Jenny Kaye 11 May '01

11 May '01

Guy wrote: [By the way, I am a big Avon fan and a bit >anti-Blake.] What still troubles me is why Avon needs Blake. Because Avon believed in him. Jenny _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] Re: Gan's woman
by Jenny Kaye 11 May '01

11 May '01

Helen Krummenacker wrote: > > > >Dana suggested: It occurred to me last night that, since many > >statements made in B7 reflect an economical attitude > >toward truth (perhaps it's a scarce, rationed resource) > >perhaps the decedent was Gan's "woman" and the > >trooper's wife, and the trooper killed her when she > >happened to be in bed with Gan at the time. Helen writes: > >I had never thought of that possibility,

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