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Re: [B7L] Declaration Of Intent To Continue Being An Idiot
by J MacQueen 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

>From: Betty Ragan <ragan(a)sdc.org> >Penny Dreadful wrote: > > I think those who believe in the Lord Avon should swear on "A:ATA", >I think I'd prefer to swear *at* A:TA... :) Did I not utter something about it not being generally recommended? Despite Una's evangelism in the cult of Og, I think there'd be some who be prepared to swear at Animals as well. Regards Joanne (who doesn't have a copy of either of Penny's suggestions just now) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] More penguins
by J MacQueen 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

>From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner(a)tesco.net> >You're complaining about a colleague with a B7 calendar? Don't start me wondering which one is Orac, for goodness sake! Regards Joanne _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] Vila and the rebels
by Marian de Haan 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

Jacqui asked: >Could Vila have originally supplied the equipment to divert the monitoring computer's attention so that Blake & the others could get out? And then he ends up in the same holding cell as Blake...< Judging by his behaviour in the series Vila seems more like someone who'd do the job himself than a supplyer of equipment. But it's possible of course, and could make a nice piece of fanfiction. Marian

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More penguins
by J MacQueen 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

Somebody call them off! This time, it's a calendar over a colleague's desk, showing eight of the darn things. Una, Neil, speak severely to the powers that be, will you? Regards Joanne (looking over her shoulder suspiciously) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] Re: Brit-char-speak
by Ashton7＠aol.com 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

In a message dated 2/21/01 3:20:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, N.Faulkner(a)tesco.net writes: << > Well, I wasn't going to say anything... but what he said. I take exception to > the statement that the British have more "reserve, dignity and respect" than > Americans. Er ... actually, Helen said that, not me. >> I know. Read what I said. I was *agreeing with you*. ("What he said.") Annie

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Re: [B7L] Thread hijacking (was Re: Sally-speak)
by Ashton7＠aol.com 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

In a message dated 2/21/01 3:03:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, ragan(a)sdc.org writes: << So I honestly, truly, don't understand why people get annoyed about it (well, except when the subject lines don't get changed, which I fully understand can be annoying). Somebody explain why it bothers people, please, so I know what I should avoid doing... >> Yes, I have the same exact question. I, too, have seen complaints about "thread hijacking" elsewhere and I never understood it there, either. Everyone on this list has the ability and the right to a) make posts b) respond to posts or c) ignore/delete posts. If someone responds to a post, taking the conversation in a different direction... and more people respond to THAT direction than the original direction, then obviously the changed direction was of more interest to more people. So, frankly, the conclusion I came to on the other list where I saw these complaints is that some people were annoyed that the attention had shifted from *them* and their ideas/points/conversation/whatever to someone else. As Betty pointed out, there's no reason why the original conversation can't continue... unless it is simply for lack of interest by enough list members *to* continue it. Annie

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addition at Redemption
by Steve Rogerson 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

Joe Nazarro has kindly agreed to step in to replace Ron Thornton's main guest talk. Joe will be talking about new shows being made in the US and is bringing some slides and video footage with him. -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson Redemption: The Blake's 7 and Babylon 5 convention 23-25 February 2001, Ashford, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption

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Re: [B7L] Re: Brit-char-speak
by Bizarro7＠aol.com 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

In a message dated 2/20/01 7:37:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, avona(a)jps.net writes: << The culture does show through, in more than just the accents. It is part of the show's appeal to me, really. Reserve, dignity, and showing respect are worthy qualties, and much maligned in modern America. My husband has guessed that he prefers British comedy to American because people like Tom and Barbara Good, Mr. Humphries, etc struggle to maintain a certain amount of dignity in often ludicrous situations, whereas on shows like 'Friends', there's no sense of restraint of any kind. >> I suppose everything's relative to the circumstances of the viewer. Quite a few US viewers adore British shows because they are simply 'different'. The people, the settings, the culture are all far enough off-center to be conprehensible but alien. I'm well aware that these shows have their own cliches, but those cliches are completely *different* from the set we've been watching on American TV for decades, so they seem fresh. And many of the British shows lack the American producer's obession for using nothing but actors and characters who are just past puberty, or as young and emaciated as they can possibly manage. I don't mind if my shows feature characters I can more easily identify with because their shapes and ages are more like the average person; the Roj Blakes, Diana Trents, Hyacinth Buckets, Mrs. Slocums, Jeffrey Ballards, Rene Artois, Dr. Who, Alex Callendars, Lionel and Jean Hardcastle and all the rest. In order for an older performer to be in the lead on an American show nowadays, he/she often has to hang around long enough to grow into it. That, or be the main character's boss or parent. Leah

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Re: [B7L] Re: Brit-char-speak
by Ashton7＠aol.com 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

In a message dated 2/21/01 3:58:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, N.Faulkner(a)tesco.net writes: << Plenty of reserve, dignity, and respect there, I'm sure you'll agree. >> Well, I wasn't going to say anything... but what he said. I take exception to the statement that the British have more "reserve, dignity and respect" than Americans. Talk about a broad generalization! I love visiting England and I think it's a wonderful country... and there are many things about it that are much better (in my eyes) than America... but the reverse is also true. There are many things *here* in American that are better than in other countries, including England. And "reserve, dignity and respect" exists in both countries (not to mention many other countries, as well). Of course, there are those models of British reserve, dignity and respect on Red Dwarf we can always point to... ;-) *Are* the Blakes 7 characters "British"? Well, personally, I don't think so. At least not all of them. If we follow that train of thought than the vast majority of spacegoers in the Star Trek Federation universe are *American*. The vast number of humanoids *and* aliens on Babylon 5 are mostly *American*. Even Xena and Hercules were *American* because, although the actors aren't American and the show isn't filmed in America, the actors mostly speak with American accents for an American audience. In fact, many "American" shows are now filmed in Canada. So, Scully and Mulder and the whole FBI must have been Canadian! (They are now "American" because the show moved operations to LA, I believe.) Hmmm, Farscape is filmed in New Zealand, isn't it? So, are all of the characters on Farscape originally from New Zealand? Even if we want to extrapolate that many of the B7 characters were meant to be "British" in the far future, who's to say that the *behavior* of people that far in the future will be the same when it comes to emotions or *anything*? Hundreds of years ago in England, did people think and talk the same way that they do today? And taking it even further, just how much of the characters' lives did we get to see? Not much, really. This is why so many fans find fan fiction appealing in the first place: the ability to take the characters and the situations in different directions and to explore all different kinds of things, including emotions. It seems to really bother some British fans when American fans want to participate in the fandom in this manner and I can only say sorry. A fan is a fan and if they feel motivated to write in their danged old American way, too bad. Don't read American fan fiction if it really bugs you that much. Annie

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Lost guest at Redemption
by Steve Rogerson 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

I'm sorry to announce that due to pressure of work Ron Thornton will not be coming to Redemption. This is a blow so close to the event as it makes it virtually impossible to find a replacement. All the other guests are ok though. -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson Redemption: The Blake's 7 and Babylon 5 convention 23-25 February 2001, Ashford, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption

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