Blakes7 February 2001

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Re:Deliverance
by Helen Krummenacker 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

> > I mean, if I'd come on the list and said "I find issues of > > gender and sexuality in Deliverance, especially with regard to Avon's > > conduct in Meegat's presence, occasionally questionable," would anyone have > > responded at all? > > I probably would have found that a *much* better and more interesting > discussion than what we got, actually, but maybe that's just me... > > -- > Betty Ragan Yes, and I would have been inclined to agree with "It's Questionable", rather than some statements that were actually made. It was questionable.

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Re: [B7L] Declaration Of Intent To Continue Being An Idiot
by J MacQueen 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

>From: Penny Dreadful <pennydreadful(a)powersurfr.com> >I, Penny Dreadful, do hereby vow I was going to suggest we all do something like this, but I was at a loss as to which book we should be holding in our right hands as we, er, solemnly took this oath. Attwood's Programme Guide? I don't want to think of two of the alternatives, especially as one isn't generally recommended... Regards Joanne _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Another new zine at Redemption
by Blenkarn 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

Parodies Lost: a Collection of Blake's Seven Parodies Stories, poems and much else in the style of different writers and writing genres. Written by Chris Blenkarn A4: 144 pages +intro: spiral bound £7.90 "It is a truth universally acknowledged that a young man in possession of a fine spacecraft must be in want of female companionship." (Jane Austen: "Exbar and Barbarity.") Your chance to read hitherto unknown gems by Woody Allen, Raymond Chandler, Enid Blyton, Garrison Keillor, Lewis Carroll, Georgette Heyer and many other writers. Enjoy a weekend break at The Incarceration Experience on Cygnus Alpha, experience the full horror of intergalactic travel as it carries on the grand tradition of the British Rail network, find out how to mix a Pink Asteroid - the cocktail of choice for the female gorilla (sorry, guerrilla). Order a Travis alarm clock or one of Avon's many other gadgets, book a ticket for "No Sex Please, We're Andromedans," see how Avon and Anna make out as management consultants, read Shakespeare on Orbit - well, everyone else has had a go, so why not him? Spend an evening in the forest with the Delta Sons of Toil, hear how Blake gets on under New Labour, learn what became of Jarriere, discover Servalan's secret passion, meet Mr.and Mrs. Istance is Useless and their Welsh nephew Rhys, not forgetting their friends, Mr and Mrs Icide Mission and their daughter Sue......... "Avon nearly lost his grip When he ordered the Pharos trip The end was not what he's imagined He should've had his head examined." (Roger McGough: "Headhunter Poems")

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Re: fandom
by Harriet Monkhouse 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

Stephen wrote: >(And supporting Man Utd is, frankly, a bit sad). Oi! Why do people think I should drop a lifetime's loyalty to my local team just because they start *winning*? A *lot*? Jarriet

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Slash and Eng Lit [was Re: [B7L] Sally-speak]
by Harriet Monkhouse 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

Shane wrote: >...big difference between fan slash and Eng. Lit. in *my* opinion... Don't get me started on Julius Caesar. Harriere

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Re: Brit-Char-Speak
by Harriet Monkhouse 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

Neil wrote: >This gets into quite interesting territory. If >we don't hear what 'really' got said, then maybe >we don't see what 'really' happened, and the aired >series is some kind of interface between the 'real' >events and our ability to make sense of them, a >kind of consensually acknowledged construct to >accomodate the limits of our comprehension. So can I sign you up for the Platonic theory of B7, viz that there is a perfect Form of the show of which we saw a vague shadow? Jarriet

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Re: [B7L] Beautiful Suffering or Horrible Acting?
by Tavia Chalcraft 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

Stephen: >I have to say that one of the few redeeming features >of Animals is the bit when they burst into Justin's lab >and PD, quite gratuitously, kicks a chair across >the room. Sheer Class ! I love the bit slightly earlier where he almost slips over. Dare I guess the two might be linked? Tavia http://www.viragene.com/

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Declaration Of Intent To Continue Being An Idiot
by Penny Dreadful 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

I, Penny Dreadful, do hereby vow to continue to post smartass remarks, sexual innuendo, references to food and clothing, comments about character, in-universe rationalizations, obscure in-jokes, sickmaking cuteness, flippancy, irreverence, irrelevance, tastelessness, and/or whatever subjectively stupid thought happens to flit through my subjectively shallow little mind, and moreover to continue appending them to whatever thread I deem appropriate. If you (the reader of this post) do not wish to read any of the above, then I suggest that you killfile me at your earliest opportunity. If Calle doesn't wish me to persist in my puerile posting pattern, he can kick me off the list, and I promise not to try and come weaseling back in with a new address. ObB7 (I *do* try): that Avon, boy oh boy, hoohah, was he just poured into those Red Leather Trousers or what? Man alive, I sure would like to Buff Up And Rinse Avon, because as an INTP, according to Myers-Briggs, I identify with him more than I do with Blake, who was willing to kill all those penguins in Star One just to prove he was right, and whom I would like to see played by Jim Carrey in The Movie. And moreover, Travis Travis Travis Travis Travis Travis Travis Travis Travis. (that word, again, is "killfile".) --Penny "Insert One Last Inane Comment Here" Dreadful -- "This is the kind of conversation that can only end in a gunshot."

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Re: [B7L] Hurt/comfort, a theory
by Ellynne G. 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

Adding somewhat frivilously to Helen's comments - The proponents of male-speak, female-speak theories (which goes with that thing about men and women being two alien species, yadda, yadda, yadda, depending on whether or not you buy that [do somedays, don't others, myself]) say that women tend to bond over things like shared feelings but also sharing hurt and comforting each other about it. Now, I'll be the first to admit, this is something that must be handled with care in the B7 universe. I don't quite see Avon and Tarrant sitting down over a large quantity of chocolate and saying things like "And, then, when the Liberator blew up, I just felt so abandoned. I'd given the best years of my life to that ship. Always there for it when it needed extra spark plugs, willing to stay up nights monitoring power levels. And what do I get for it? The one time - the _one_ time - I can't come through, it's just big explosions and goodbye and hope you die on that mutant planet. I just feel so . . . _used_." And Tarrant replying, "Hey, let it out. I'm here for you, man." Pardon a moment. OK, stomach distress with an urge to do something seriously damaging to the keyboard under control. Anyhow, that's not quite them. It should only happen in a story where Vila is having the DTs to end all DTs and hallucinating it. All right, back to the point, which is that h/c may have its place, especially if it spares us the above. However, whether it says something really sick about me or not (I hope not. I really, really hope not) but I am somewhat inclined towards it as a story device. Worse, my impulse is to put one of Avon's friends through Bad Things and make Avon feel guilty about it - which stands to reason since, even if it wasn't his fault, he's good at blaming himself for stuff (IMHO). If the laws of physics were ultimately responsible for hurting someone he didn't admit he cared about, he'd probably blame himself for not having fixed that design defect in the universe before it hurt someone. JMO. Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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Brit-Char-Speak (was Re: [B7L] Sally-speak)
by Tavia Chalcraft 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

Mistral: >Well now, there's an interesting ingame/outgame debate. >I mean, _are_they really British (descended) characters >just because of the actors'accents? Is Blake Welsh, >Jarriere Scottish? If so, then we may really have to >account for the differences between the Travii. As Blake and Avon both worked on the matter transmission project, they must both have inhabited the same Dome at one point (I assume Domes are large enough that people would live and work in the same one). Although there's no evidence that this is the same Dome as the one we later see Blake living in, it might be a reasonable assumption that they are close? Certainly the landscape we see in TWB looks British, though it's hard to tell in the dark. There's no reason to suppose the other Earth natives came from the same region at all, though the fact that they all speak with similar accents suggests that they might. The only place I can recall anyone mentioning on Earth offhand is the Himalayas (Vila). I don't think that they were his homeland... Tavia http://www.viragene.com/

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