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Re: Richard III [was Re: [B7L] Mary Sues]
by Harriet Monkhouse 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

>Do you mean the Ian McKellen one? I loved it, especially the use of London landmarks for the set, eg the palace being in St Pancras railways station (magically relocated by the river). Though why they cast Mark Ramprakash as Henry VII beats me. In answer to Jacqui, Peter Miles would do a lovely job. Sadly, they lost the scene from the stage version where Margaret interrupts them at dinner, and everyone jumps/recoils, except for Richard, who calmly continues to sip his soup. Warning: any resemblance between characters in the above play and those actually living in the 15th century is entirely coincidental. Jarriet

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Re: [B7L] Sally-speak (was: Was it something I said :-)
by Ashton7＠aol.com 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

In a message dated 2/20/01 5:38:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, nydersdyner(a)yahoo.co.uk writes: << And I also sometimes feel as if nobody really questions the concept at all--like it's just assumed that everyone's OK with this. >> Maybe that's because in American fandom, as a rule, hurt/comfort is "standard" in fan fiction and therefore it probably *is* assumed that everyone's "okay" with it. In fact, hurt/comfort is a standard in pro fiction, as well, even in something as "nuts and bolts" as mainline SF. I can only quote from one of my favorite authors, Orson Scott Card, a winner of multiple Hugos (actually I will paraphrase). Scott says find the character in your story who hurts the most... and hurt him SOME MORE. You really can't write a story that involves the reader emotionally without putting the hero/heroine into trouble. Annie

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fandom
by Helen Krummenacker 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

> . and Angel, of course, is in San Francisco. > My turn to be anal-rententive, Fiona. That's Los Angeles "The City of Angels", not San Francisco.

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Re: fandom
by Helen Krummenacker 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

> > > Well, that's why it appealled to me when I was 14 and not when I was 24. > > Even then, I preferred stories some ambiguity, if only because it made > > more sense. Roger Delgado as the Master wanted to make the universe a > > more organized place; Anthony Andrews as the Master > > At the risk of sounding anal-retentive, that's Anthony *Ainley* :). > > Fiona > Of course. Just goes to show how long ago my Dr. Who fandom was.

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Forbidden Star Three
by Judith Proctor 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

Forbidden Star Three is just back from the printers. Copies will be available at Redemption. This is a slash zine (ie. explict homosexual content). I'll post more details later when I have the time. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org ) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/

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Re: fandom
by Isobel Hamilton 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

>>Is there anyone out there who *does* watch B7 or another show at least >>partly (and large-part, please) for one of the minor characters, with >>little >>interest in the majors? >Buffy. The lead is self-centered and often obnoxious and/or whiney. But >Giles is so marvellous. I like Xander. Anya says the most unbelievable >things. In fact, I think the entire ensemble is terrific. I'd be happy >if the pulled a 'Blake' with her and let the show go on without Buffy >if >SMG deecided to leave. How true! Only you forgot someone.. Buffy is only worth watching for Spike. My dream would be that they end that show by letting him finally kill her... she grows more awful by the season. Isobel (been here ages, still a newbie, doesn't post often at all!) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [B7L] Sally-speak (was: Was it something I said :-)
by Ashton7＠aol.com 20 Feb '01

20 Feb '01

In a message dated 2/20/01 5:04:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, N.Faulkner(a)tesco.net writes: << I said almost exactly what Fiona said a few hours ago: Suffering can never be Beautiful. As is typical with discussion on the Lyst, much was said but few if any opinions were significantly altered. If you don't like that, you just have to learn to lump it. >> This is something I've noticed for years and years... British fans seem to NOT like the more emotional aspects of fan fiction and therefore, many of them don't tend to like the hurt/comfort genre as a whole. In fact, it's mainly British fans who I have often seen refer to h/c as "sadistic" and the like. American fans, on the other hand, tend to revel in the emotional aspects and h/c has been "big" in fan fiction since the early Star Trek days and onward. Yes, slash probably partially developed as an offshoot of h/c, but h/c is not necessarily slash just like slash is not necessarily h/c. Now, I know I'm generalizing. No doubt there will be some British fans who speak up and say they *like* h/c and there will be some American fans who say they don't. But, I think if there were a way to do a survey, we would probably find that there *is* a general attitude difference *overall*. Frankly, a perusal in the differences in stories between British/Australian zines as compared to American zines will tell the tale quite nicely. (And I should know... I've been reading an average of 10 fanzines a week for the last several months trying to "catch up" on my fanzine reading... not to mention the dozens of zines I've edited over the years.) Annie

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Cally in Red [was RE: [B7L] Re: fandom]
by Harriet Monkhouse 20 Feb '01

20 Feb '01

Louise agreed with Neil: >>ObB7: I seem to be in a minority that actually liked Cally's >>red Saurian Major outfit. It makes her look chunky. > >Oh, no, I'm going to have to agree with Neil here And so do I. Jarriet

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Help (was Sally-speak)
by Tavia Chalcraft 20 Feb '01

20 Feb '01

Marion: >What exactly is to BUARA? I'm now wondering whether I've >been inadvertently BUARAing in my stories and if so, whether >that's a bad thing:-) BUARA = Beat up and rape Avon. I doubt you've been doing it by accident. Tavia

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Re: [B7L] BUARA (was: Help (was Sally-speak))
by Sally Manton 20 Feb '01

20 Feb '01

Dear People I've sent Marian the answer to this one :-) I really *don't* think we ought to end the month with the sort of smash-up discussing this would cause. Any other new people who want to ask, feel free to write to me; it's also on the list of acronyms on Judith's website. Sally From: "Marian de Haan" <maya(a)multiweb.nl> What exactly is to BUARA? I'm now wondering whether I've been inadvertently BUARAing in my stories and if so, whether that's a bad thing :-) Marian _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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