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Re: Deliverance
by Helen Krummenacker 01 Feb '01

01 Feb '01

> By making him look > like a bastard for kicking her in the teeth any time > she bows down? Hmm? I must have missed the scene. But I *do* remember him gently raising her up to her feet. I suppose you read this as him dominating her, or her being unable to stand up for herself-- I, on the contrary, felt the message he was trying to give her was that he respected her and (while he wasn't going to dispell her belief in his demigod status) that she should address him without undue deference and ceremony. I don't know how she acted around her own people, but the fact she *didn't* contact anyone else for 'what do I do now' seems to indicate that, when not in the presence of the Prophecized One, she is quite the boss of herself. Please bear in mind, he is a religious figure to her. It is not necessarily any more embarrassing for her to kneel before him than for a Wiccan to make a shrine to the Goddess.

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Space, the final frontier
by Natasa Tucev 01 Feb '01

01 Feb '01

Mistral wrote: >[For that matter, with the whole penetrating the void thing, maybe space >exploration is in itself sexist and aggressively masculine, and we >should stay happy and ignorant right here on Mother Earth. I know this was meant to be an ironic statement, but there's something about it that bothers me. Lots of parallels could be drawn between space exploration and the process of colonization in the past. Exploring and colonizing Africa was promoted by European propaganda as a noble enterprise of 'enlightening savages' and bringing them merits of civilization, but in many ways it was actually penetration, rape and abuse of the dark continent, an aggressive masculine act. In 'Dusklands', by Coetzee, a character called Jacobus states this very clearly: I see myself as an explorer of darkness. I penetrate the darkness with the brightness of my intellect and my blue eye. If this doesn't work, I use my gun. There are great many connections between the imperialistic conquest of wilderness and the rape of women. I don't think much has changed in the imperialistic consciousness inherent within the dominant culture. If the human race eventually sets out to find new worlds, it will be with the same masculine, aggressive desire for penetration and conquest as before. I'm not saying we ought to stay on this planet for ever, but I wish we could start exploring the Universe with a somewhat different attitude. In mid-December, with + 18 C degrees outside instead of harsh Balkan winters we used to have before, I turn my TV on. Dragging his body on a pair of crutches through some sort of botanical garden, a scientist talks about creating human habitats on Mars. Cool - with some luck, we may even manage to hop onto a new world before we totally destroy this one. Sorry, I still have more sympathy for the primitive consciousness which viewed this world as a beloved mother, than for the consciousness which views it as parcelled property to be irresponsibly consumed and eventually discarded. I don't think it would hurt if the exploration of space were conducted with the former. Oops, no B7, except maybe B7ish gloom. N.

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Stardrive in SFX
by Steve Rogerson 01 Feb '01

01 Feb '01

The new issue of SFX (no 75) in the UK features Stardrive as one of the three episodes in its couch potato feature, though there seems to be more said about jumper sniffing than the episode, but there is a bit of someone salivating over Avon. -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson Redemption: The Blake's 7 and Babylon 5 convention 23-25 February 2001, Ashford, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption

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Re: Lysator's new Look
by JEB31538＠cs.com 01 Feb '01

01 Feb '01

Calle, I finally checked my settings and my digest was set in MIME. I changed it to TEXT and now I am free of all that annoying extra nine lines (or more) in the headers. Until I got today's digest, I had not realized how totally obnoxious that had been. So my problem with the new system is now solved. Joyce

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Where did all the locals go? [was Re: Deliverance ]
by Harriet Monkhouse 01 Feb '01

01 Feb '01

Jacqui asked: >And how come the 'locals' disappear after the one episode? The Seska were dead. And Nina said she was going to take the Hommiks somewhere else. I may detest Ben Steed for traducing Pella, but he did remember to clear the stage afterwards. Harriet

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Re: Blake's 7 - the Other Version
by Harriet Monkhouse 01 Feb '01

01 Feb '01

Stephen D wrote: >And how thick am I for not realising until 30 >seconds ago that the episode Shadow was named, > not only after the drug but after the relationship > between the Federation and the TN ? Ooh! Well, you're smarter than I am, anyway. Now can you explain why the B5 episode about the Drazi War is called Geometry of Shadows when there don't appear to be any Shadows in it? My only theory is that the Green/Purple system was set up by the Shadows as part of their philosophy of strength through conflict. Harriet

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Re: Blake's 7 - the Other Version
by Harriet Monkhouse 01 Feb '01

01 Feb '01

Penny described a dramatic scene, concluding with: >KYLE: He killed Penny! [to Ben Steed] You bastard! Oh well, if that's the cost... [Sigh] I'll release you from the contract. Be sure that my enemies will rejoice. Harriet

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Power (was Deliverance)
by Ellynne G. 01 Feb '01

01 Feb '01

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 17:26:48 -0500 jacquispeel(a)netscape.net writes: > > And how come the 'locals' disappear after the one episode? The episode gave them some vague reasons to move on (the place of their chieftan's death, the war with the Seska, and possibly Dorian's neighborhood being bad vibe oriented). Whether this was part of their grieving rituals (like Navajos who used to abandon a house where someone had died) or they didn't like the place is unclear. Of course, if they had the faintest glimmerings about what kind of trouble magnets had just moved in, they probably moved to the other side of the planet as fast as they could run. Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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Meanwhile, in another universe....
by Stephen Date 01 Feb '01

01 Feb '01

Just imagine what would happen if Terry Nation tried to get B7 made today..... "Terry Nation's original series idea for the cult sci-fi drama was vetoed by the BBC. "Too downbeat, too politically incorrect, the Federation could be seen as a coded attack on the EU". Undeterred Nation submitted a rewrite for the series". Space Command was the tale of heroic Galactic Peacekeepers Roj Blake and Kerr Avon, who flew round the galaxy bringing peace and goodwill to all sentient lifeforms. They reported to the head of the Federation, Blairvalan whose Space Command Headquarters bore an uncanny resemblance to the Millenium Dome. The two episodes which became classics were "Deliverance" and "The Final Act". Deliverance: Teleporting to the planet Cephlon, our heroes encountered Meegat, who tells them the sad history of her planet. Touched by her innocence our heroes take their ship "The Conran" back in time to the era of the civil war. There they save Cashell the wise and evacuate the feuding factions, ancestors of Meegats people and the savages, to distant ends of the galaxy, thus obviating the need for any sub-Freudian stock footage of the NASA space programme. Returning to their own time however they realise that their intervention has had a terrible effect. Space Command no longer exists and their ship is boarded by Commander Meegat of the Galactic Eighth Fleet and commandeered to fight in the Galactic war fought by the descendants of the two factions..... The Final Act: Blake and Avon are exiled to a distant planet where they encounter Blairvalan, not as in their reality a wise leader but an unsuccessful musician with a drink problem. Avon helps Blairvalan through detox. Meanwhile Blake discovers that the change in history was caused by Renegade Space Commander Sandelmon (played by Brian Croucher at his maddest), whose thwarted ambition to become co-presenter with Terry Christian of a cult 80's yoof TV show "The Word, The WORD !!!" has led him to betray the galaxy to the Andromedans. Just as all hell is about to break loose, Avon and Blairvalan hack into Star One and play Blairavan's new song "Love, Peace, Groovy, Yeah". The conflicting factions, Sandelmon and the Andromedans see the error of their ways. In a final heartwarming scene Blake, Avon, The leaders of the two factions, Meegat, Space Commander Sandelmon, The Andromedan Commander, Terry Christian, Carl Gustav Jung and Ben Steed all join Blairvalan round the fireside of his delightful Islington home where they all join in a chorus of Nicole's 1982 Eurovision hit "A little loving". Nah ! Give me flares, dodgy special effects and snarling any day of the week ! ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

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Re: [B7L] Deliverance
by Stephen Date 01 Feb '01

01 Feb '01

--- Tavia Chalcraft wrote: > > I thought that the only reason they made Avon into > the God figure in Deliverance was so that Blake > could take the major role in Orac without > having radiation sickness? No cunning here I fear. > Still it's a much stronger episode as a result. > But by leaving Avon on the Liberator in Orac, Nation does allow him to save the day at the end of the episode. And gives him the best line ! But you're probably right. Meegat venerating Blake seems subtly wrong somehow. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

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